Is there a way to easily activate a fresh install of 8.1 on a 8.0 system?

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  1. generalmx

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    #1 generalmx, Nov 4, 2014
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    My store manager says it can't be done, but I feel there's a way...the problem is of course 8.1 requires different product keys than 8.0 -- where upgrading to 8.1 also changes the product key -- so 8.0 install media won't take 8.1 keys and visa-versa. So when you only have an 8.0 key, you have to first install 8.0 and then upgrade to 8.1; this is a bit weird because 8.1 is essentially a service pack; first "8.1", then "Update 1", what's next for the rebranding of service packs? I can only fathom they did this to cement their new "rapid release" cycle for consumer editions of Windows.

    Note: "Easily activate" means not having to call Microsoft to fix the activation.
     
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    #4 generalmx, Nov 4, 2014
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    I did read this, but I've been told 8.1 install media reject OEM:DM keys for 8.0, which is why he's asking for 8.0 DVDs.

    However, I am including the various tools you linked into the UEFI multiboot tool I've been working on and plan to release by 2015 (which my shop "tests").
     
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    Read again :D

     
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    #6 EFA11, Nov 4, 2014
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    far too easy. Admittedly we were stumped at first with 8.1 on 8 machines. Now it is as said, install 8.1 on 8 machine with 8.1 gvlk key and then change key to the 8 machines key after install and activate. I always wonder how it is we take the hard road first and then find the shortcut after we already made it to our destination hehe
     
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    #8 generalmx, Nov 4, 2014
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    That's what we tried doing, but I think it didn't work specifically with retail 8.0 keys, perhaps upgrade keys, where there'd be no OEM:DM key. But again this is what I've just been hearing; they refuse to help me test it and I've been swamped updating their tools in such a way I can release something soon for ya'll.

    And regarding the OEM:DM key I wasn't quite sure on: if you have a 8.0 OEM:DM key and are installing 8.1 using Windows Setup, do you need to backup & wipe the OEM:DM key to make sure Windows Setup doesn't use it?
     
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    #10 Smorgan, Nov 4, 2014
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    I would write a script that does this:

    slmgr.vbs ipk:(insert the gvlk key here)

    I would first install 8.1 using a network install then use the above script to put the 8.0 key back into effect. After that I'd use KMS with its usual task
     
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    #11 s1ave77, Nov 4, 2014
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    Huh ... sorry, but:

    #1. After Tito linked to the thread with all needed info, you quoted his post by linking to a thread that is in no way related to the problem of the OP.

    #2. OP is already wrong with the assumption that Win 8 Retail and OEM:DM keys don't work on Win 8.1, they do.

    #3. No-one is talking about KMS.
     
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