Is there an EASY way to slipstream all the updates for Windows 8.1 Pro VLK x64 Update

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  1. MonarchX

    MonarchX MDL Expert

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    Windows Pro VLK x64 with Update 1 integrated still misses a bunch of updates and then another bunch came out today. I know there are guides out there on how to integrate updates in Windows installation, but they all seem to require a lot of work. It also appears there are NO releases out there with all the updates included.

    Is there something that would auto-download all updates not included in Update 1 and then just re-create the ISO with those updates in it? I don't care for drivers and software packages. Just Windows 8.1 Pro VLK x64 Update 1 + all addition updates.
     
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  2. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Check TPB for User/murphy78 (he's also a member here :cool2:), he regularly releases updated versions.
     
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  3. Snuffy

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    actually i would have told him
    1. get the HotFix Downloader. and DL all the HOTFIXES.
    2. use the HOTFIX program to add all the DLs to his ISO
    3. then remove all the superseded hotfixes from his iso.
    4. then save it.
    I like Murphy78 AIOs also but who the hell wants 183
    I usually just make my 5-AIO- and get by that way... plus to me it more fun to learn how to do and custom make ones own...
    Alphawaves and/or Orbit30s AIO works just fine for me...
    or do it the old fashion way... DISM and script...
     
  4. johnwayne007

    johnwayne007 MDL Novice

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    I have windows pro 8.1 update. I have used hotfix downloader and downloaded them all. Sorry to see so dumb but how do I add them to windows 8.1 update iso I already have?

    Maybe when you have time a simple step by step be appreciated :)

    Thanks
     
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    johnwayne007 MDL Novice

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    Bumping.........Please I would be greatful if someone could tell me simple steps to take
     
  6. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    WHD by Alphawaves offers an option to integrate updates (the 'Gear' button for 'Tools and Settings' and the 'Windows' tab).

    Other solution would be MSMGs Toolkit: MSMG ToolKit for Windows 7-8.1 / Windows Server 2008 - 2012 R2 v1.08

    At least it can be done with wadk, but that needs some reading about DISM usage :cool2:.
     
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  7. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    I would add: the above mentioned tools by s1ave77 are the easiest way/method to integrate (not tested by me but if s1ave77 says so then it is) and DISM definitely is not an easy way to accomplish that task but I can assure you it gives full control of what you're doing if you actually know what you're doing.
     
  8. MonarchX

    MonarchX MDL Expert

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    I got all updates downloaded, but they included the already integrated Update 1. So, which of them do I add and which ones are superseded and by which ones? Is there a program that sort all this out for me? Would MSMGs Toolkit sort out which updates to integrate and which NOT to integrate based on the Windows 8.1 Pro x64 VLK Update 1 ISO I already have and the updates I downloaded??? Would it also slipstream them accurately? I also decided I want to integrate a few simple drivers, .INF based ones that don't require any special installers.

    Is there a similar tool for Office 2013? I think I have the latest Service Pack version, so the same exact questions concern me - which updates are already applied and which ones are superseded and superseded by which updates? Would MSMGs Toolkit sort it all out for me and slipstream only the right updates for me?
     
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  9. MSMG

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    If you have downloaded the updates using WHD then the WHD Tool will sort out the updates to proper folders and also provides you the option to remove the superseded updates.

    Now since you are using Windows 8.1 with Update 1 then you can ignore the Baseline updates and continue with the rest of the updates.

    The updates can be integrated in any order unless it requires any pre-requisite updates.

    You can use either WHD or MSMG ToolKit to integrate updates/drivers as both does the job properly.

    At present MSMG ToolKit won't integrate updates for Office 2013 but WHD does the option to download the Updates for Office 2013 as well as integrate them.


     
  10. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    ...or you could just do it the easy way and export the desired indexes from my monthly releases to your own personal version.
    Just export them in the order you want them to show up.
    If you need to convert to wim, either use the abbodi1406 script or dism capture an empty directory, delete the index, then export the esd to the empty-index wim.
     
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  11. MonarchX

    MonarchX MDL Expert

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    #11 MonarchX, May 23, 2014
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    I apologize in advance for stupid questions - I am a SERIOUS OS Update integration n00bz0r-esque member.

    Hmm... WHD didn't sort any superseded updates for me. I think its a separate function I need to run somewhere within the program? Also, you say to ignore Baseline updates, but the WHC InstallOrder64.txt states that if you have ISO with Update 1, then you only need to apply Windows8.1-KB2959977-x64 and then Windows8.1-KB2934018-x64. So... do I get rid of these two or should I integrate them into the ISO? How do I know if these 2 updates were included in the ISO I downloaded? I think it was a standard (not murphy's) Windows 8.1 Pro x64 VLK with Update 1 integrated. If those 2 updates or either of them were integrated already and I re-integrated them by mistake with MSMG, then what consequences will I suffer? Maybe it would be safer to use the original Windows 8.1 Pro x64 VLK ISO? I don't have one and I can't find a link to one without the AIO stuff... I don't know what to do!!! BUT I recall having to download a 126Mb update after installing my current version of Windows 8.1 Pro x64 VLK Update 1, which means that the Windows8.1-KB2934018-x64 update was not integrated. Will MSMG Toolkit know to integrate Windows8.1-KB2959977-x64 first and then Windows8.1-KB2934018-x64 second? I see there is an included .CAB update in x64 update folder - does that mean my updates need to be in .CAB form too??? Could I use WHD to convert MSU to CAB?

    WHD downloaded several updates of several categories - Additional, Baseline, Extra, General, Hotifx, and Security. Can they all be integrated/slipstreamed? It didn't find ANY superseded ones!

    Since I have a 3770K @ 4.6Ghz and Windows 8.1 Pro, I can run Virtual Machine to test if my update and driver slipstreaming was successful, correct? Would I need SSD/HDD space for that or can I use my 16Gb of RAM to allocate the installation there? I know Windows 8.1 Pro only need 11Gb of space and the rest (5Gb) of RAM could be shared to run the OS and see if it works, right?

    My desires have no limits! Now I want to integrate NET Framework 3.5, and updates for it along with pre-activation and quite a few features MSMG is capable of doing, but I remember nLite and the more you were trying to change - the higher the chance of failure there was.
     
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  12. MonarchX

    MonarchX MDL Expert

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    So, I guess I just place ALL of the updates into the x64 Update directory of the MSMG Toolkit??? Should I leave them in those category folders or should place them all inside the same exact directory (x64 Updates) ? It seems to be straight-forward afterwards, although I am not sure about the driver integration.
     
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  13. MonarchX

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    #13 MonarchX, May 23, 2014
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    Nevermind! I wasnt even using the right Toolkit - I was trying to use the Conversion Toolkit...
     
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  14. MSMG

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    WHD will move all the superseded updates to a new folder if it finds any superseded updates.

    Yes it was my mistake, I did forgot about those two updates KB2934018 and KB2959977.

    If you are using MSMG ToolKit, then first you integrate KB2934018 and then the KB2959977 to Windows 8.1 with update 1. This will be your new base image. use this image for further integrations.

    If you have already integrated those two updates and try to integrate again it will simply pass the integration phase without any errors so no issues.

    The WHD downloads the updates and puts them to different folders to make it easier for finding the updates. yes you can include those updates for integration.

    MSMG ToolKit will accept both .cab and .msu files for integration and will extract the .cab files for from .msu files automatically. You just need to place them in <Updates\w8x\x64\Install> folder.

    Using MSMG ToolKit for integration or removal process won't break up any windows functionality so don't worry about using it.

     
  15. 24q6hr

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    I would like to ask some experienced person: what method of slipstreaming updates can make the updates slipstream in a way they cannot be uninstalled after the OS installation? I would like to build an image (preferably Windows 7, but also Windows 8.1), that would be comparatively as "small" as the original one, like if you only replace the old files with the new ones and the system would not install the already installed updates again (windows/MS update should be aware that the system is already up to date). S far I have been searching for methods I only found those who inflate the OS footprint and the updates are usually uninstallable, as if I would install them manually after OS installation.

    Thanks.
     
  16. MSMG

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    it's possible with windows 8.1 since the new dism has an options /startcomponentcleanup and /resetbase to make the applied updates permanent and also to remove the superseded updates too. But with Windows 7, I don't think there's a easy way for doing it.

     
  17. s1ave77

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    Nice solution to update Win 7 off/onlline: http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...tem-Integrate-hotfixes-into-Win7-distribution

    To get this done at least one Install in Audit Mode, Sysprep/Generalize and re-capture to WIM is required.

    In Win 7 it can't be done offline only within the running system; see Atari800XLs comment above.

    In Win 8.1 a lot of Updates trigger a pending state, making it impossible to cleanup and resetbase.
     
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  18. 24q6hr

    24q6hr MDL Novice

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    That solution is known to me, but as far as i remember (not tried for a long time due to what I'll write now) the cleanup cleans just a small portion of what I need to clean and I remember I was even able to uninstall some randomly picked installed update.

    All of you: thanks for your answers.
     
  19. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    I haven't personally used it, but I believe KUC can give you a list of superseded updates that you can uninstall that are no longer needed.
    cleanmgr plugin update just compresses them if I understood abbodi correctly... (I haven't tested that)

    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...s-7-2008-R2-WMS-or-Win-embedded-update-status
     
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    #20 abbodi1406, Jul 5, 2014
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