Is there any complelling reason to eventually upgrade to windows 8?

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by magnus33, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. magnus33

    magnus33 MDL Member

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    Windows 8 at its core is sound without any of the driver issues that vista had.

    Its stable and nothing major is popping out in the bug department.

    Now that aside there's also nothing major popping out in the advancement department.

    No major wow must have it feature or innovation that says yes i must upgrade.
    Add this too the fact that MS seems to want to ram the metro UI down everyone's throats without any choice and its becomes less compelling to upgrade.
    The last nail seems likely to be MS dumb as post pricing scheme.

    Can you think of any reason you want to upgrade and what feature makes that a must?
     
  2. germulvey

    germulvey MDL Novice

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    #2 germulvey, Mar 15, 2012
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    TBH no - windows 7 works for me and I found 8 to get in the way of simple tasks. You're right about the pricing though :)
     
  3. venu

    venu MDL Addicted

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    Metro aside, win8 can be looked upon as a win7+sp2. There are a few added features- built in iso handling, pdf reader, explorer ribbon that can be added to win7 with 3rd party tools like ultraiso, acrobat/pdfexchange etc. etc. There are some features like windows2go and storage spaces that are unique to win8 but which may or may not be useful to the end user. E.g. I'm too poor to buy a 32gb stick for portable windows (neither do I need one) and I really dont need additional space other than what I can add through my existing external drives. Then theres hybrid boot but the speed's not critical unless you reboot 20 times a day. Theres added security, admin in win8 seems to be less powerful than the one in win7, but heck I always disabled all security.

    The killer feature I had been waiting for was a new file system- protogon. Now we have ReFS but dont know whether ReFS=protogon and whether ReFS will be extended to windows 8 (other than server). That has been the real disappointment. So, if RTM introduces ReFS for the consumer editions, I'll be tempted otherwise......if the bright guys at MDL manage to crack it, I might switch otherwise, win7's doing the job just fine.
     
  4. liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol

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    #4 liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol, Mar 15, 2012
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    nowone should go at 8 today cause at this time there is almost not softaware working on. , why not for look(it mean its only about curiousity.)
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    ps: but ofc nowone can know everything ...
     
  5. hansk

    hansk MDL Novice

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    Way too many upgrades. They better take care of existing user base.
     
  6. liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol

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    #6 liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol, Mar 15, 2012
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    ... if u cant run urs favorite softs ther's no point (lose time for 'EATCH' one - some 0%chance working - new = more bugs/instability than olderer ) ...
     
  7. kokosmann

    kokosmann MDL Novice

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    What I am seriously concerned about is the new Kill-Switch.

    If MS dare to invade my privacy that deeply, I will refuse to use that kind of new "technology".

    Otherwise, if DAZ is going to manage "things ;-)" in Windows 8 and you can completely turn that crappy Metro stuff off, it might be worth a try.

    Still pretty happy with Win7.
     
  8. liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol

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    :-(today nowone care about privacy SORY:-(
     
  9. secretromeo

    secretromeo MDL Senior Member

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    There's only one compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 8 - if MS prices it as a $20 upgrade! :D :D
     
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  11. efjay

    efjay MDL Novice

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    For me, yes. Its faster, more secure, saves settings across my pc's, works better on older hardware, Metro makes it easier to use. Dont see any downside.
     
  12. liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol

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    its couldly... bether to try things ur self (not only allways stupidly trust new things ...)
     
  13. timster

    timster MDL Senior Member

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    almost no software works on Windows 8? .. hmm, i've got a lot of software running on Windows 8

    i guess you must have no favourite software then.

    ok, this is true, to a point. people care about their privacy, it's the corporations that don't seem to care about the peoples privacy
     
  14. liltest8hmail8h8boxhhlol

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    i've got a lot of software running on Windows 8

    ok.
     
  15. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    Who says DAZ can manage it? The UEFI stuff is different from SLIC 2.X technology, and especially much harder to bypass. I think MS has things set up pretty good in Win8.
    I think the war is moving away from the pre-boot area to somewhere else, unless someone manages to break the UEFI security so unsigned firmware can be flashed.
     
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  16. kokosmann

    kokosmann MDL Novice

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    That's why I used that little word "if". I never said he can, but could well imagine he is able to.
     
  17. nodnar

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    #17 nodnar, Mar 15, 2012
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    stannieman


    you have hit the nail right on it`s head!
    that was my fear all along..
    :worthy:
    let me elaborate..

    i have seen uefi come along.
    it is basically an improvement.
    compared to a 16 bit bios, but,

    from the first it was obvious that m$
    was going to abuse the `secure` boot
    thing to block any oem machine from
    booting open source operating systems..

    this is not a thing that the avarage
    salesman in the computershop is going
    to tell you..more than likely he is
    not even aware of it..
     
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  18. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    I can't see a big reason to buy an upgrade, but I could definitely see buying a Win 8 hybrid tablet-laptop, that is a full powered laptop x86 with touch screen (Metro must be much nicer on a tablet, but it sucks hard with a mouse as nothing is intuitive, and don't give me the keyboard shortcut stuff, as you can guarantee the average user won't bother to learn those). I find putting the mouse in the corner and doing some stuff requires too much precision (click the bottom left corner in the Desktop to get that menu, I get it 1/10 attempts).

    I'd get the tablet and benefit from the UEFI boot speed, be able to use touch and mouse+keyboard, and the extra built in features. If not, and Metro still sucks at RTM, you'll bet there will be a way to kill it completely made and I'll just run it on a normal Desktop like Windows 7. If only someone would make a 100% accurate W7 start menu. If you could just rig a service that launched Desktop at start, and could disable going back to Metro, then add that start menu, many people would notice little difference.

    So I'll "upgrade" when I buy a new laptop, as will most people. Anyone who doesn't buy new stuff will likely NOT upgrade, legit or otherwise, except to run the new OS for the sake of it.
     
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  19. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    The Secure Boot mandatory is only going to be in ARM, which I strongly discourage anyone from buying an ARM W8 device. It will be iPad style lockdown on a POS device, basically a copy of iOS and Android except the worst of both made worse. I don't see why anyone would want an ARM Windows device if all your crap doesn't work on it, especially with so many people already committed to iOS/Android.

    Those who stick to good old fashioned x86 can disable that secure boot, and just maybe that will give hope for those hoping for an OEM bypass. Though if I'm giving MS credit they actually deserve they'll have burnt unique keys to the UEFI to kill OEM bypass just like that, after all the whining from the OEMs about changes, I can't imagine they didn't do that. But there shouldn't be Linux issues on a x86 device if MS isn't lying about that.
     
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  20. Jachra

    Jachra MDL Member

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    If you can a add a certificate that is uniquely created per system into the UEFI. And that the UEFI will not revoke it.
    Then you can run your own program at boot.

    Too bad that Microsoft did not extend programming support to the Bochs-team. Instead of Windows XP-mode, we could have Windows 7-mode on the arm.