Looking for recommendations, new to Virtualization

Discussion in 'Virtualization' started by selyb, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. selyb

    selyb MDL Novice

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    Goal: Run Win7 x64 full time, run 1 or 2 distros of linux simply for recreational purposes, run XP x86 sometimes for software that refuses to work on vista, run DOS occasionally. It would also be nice to have another XP to use for sandbox for untrusted software.

    If possible, I would like to do all this without having to reboot for each OS
    I'm a little overwhelmed with the options for this. I have an ASUS M4A77TD with Phenom X2, 4GB DDR3 @533mhz, Radeon 4870, and 3x 320GB SATA 3.0 hdds in RAID0. CPU-Z claims my processor supports AMD-V.

    I have a spare sata drive I can throw in here just to test things out. This box is for personal use, no servers will be hosted on it. I'm leaning more toward a bare-metal VM or JeOS but I'm open to any real suggestions. My technical level is decent, I've setup 5 different flavors of linux, hundreds of installs of windows 9x/XP/Vista/7, have taken some cisco certification courses, can follow nearly any scripting language etc, etc.
     
  2. jlgager

    jlgager MDL Developer

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    Vmware, Virtual Box, and Windows Virtual PC are all good programs in the order listed from best to less best lol.
     
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  3. selyb

    selyb MDL Novice

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    please elaborate
     
  4. urie

    urie Moderator
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    Please start searching for info on the programs jlgager pointed out to you.
     
  5. selyb

    selyb MDL Novice

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    haha, I've done my homework. I'm asking about personal preferences or experiences. In my research, I seem to always find that each person prefers either VBox or VMWare for this reason or that. What I'm hoping to find is someone who has used a similar setup for similar reasons and this person could tell me which solution he/she chose to finalize on.

    Anyway, I posted this on MSFN forum and it was explained to me that a bare metal solution is probably not what I want since I will always be using the machine locally and those are meant for headless boxes. As of yet, I'm leaning hard toward a JeOS with either VirtualBox or VMWare.
     
  6. urie

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    The good thing about VMware is searchengine had done excellent program for modding patching vmware bioses with slic 2.1 for windows vista and windows 7 and slp 1.0 for XP so you can install OEM SLP versions and be permanently activated. Personally i used to use MS virtual PC 2007 but have since changed to a Lite version of Vmware 7 i,e, repacked that will only do windows install all i need it for only 65MB rather that 500 odd MB for full version :) in fact i have a version of 7.1 only 38Mb still to give that a shot.
     
  7. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    Virtual pc has to few features, and I thought virtual box needs more mouseclicks than vmware to create a new vm and link isos etc to the vm, so that's why I use vmware.
    No experiance with parralels, they also have a windows vm
     
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  8. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Vmware Workstation, Parallels (requires activation), Vmlite, Virtualbox, VPC 2007, VPC XP Mode

    If you are new to VM then thay are all equal really (with probably Vmware much easier to get BIOS modded)

    sebus
     
  9. selyb

    selyb MDL Novice

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    thx guys, this is exactly the kind of stuff I'm looking for, I never had any intention of running VPC, this is the first I've heard of VMlite

    If I have slic 2.1 in my onboard bios, will it be used or would the bios for my VM need to be modded after all?

    @urie: is VMlite what you are speaking of? I'm interested, even though I don't think it will fit my criteria, I'm just naturally curious.
     
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  11. FireGunz

    FireGunz MDL Novice

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    Looking for Suggestion, new to Virtualization

    Hi Guys,

    I may be in wrong post to put. due to looking for some advise from Pro or who had the experiences...

    I had brought a New SATA HDD (250GB) which I had install "Win 7 ULTIMATE" x86 into WHOLE HDD (thinking of can install WinXP @ WVPC) later found out the My Com does not support Virtualization... (which mean unable install VPC, right?)

    So thinking reformat the SATA HDD (250GB) and reinstall the "Win 7 ULTIMATE" x86 into WHOLE HDD again (But about Win 7 activation shall I redo it again or should I need to Deactiva 1st before Format te HDD) into may 120GB and then the Half of the HDD install into WinXP Pro and make as a dual boot...

    so does anyone got a Suggestion for this... o_O

    due most of my software is for WinXp as Win 7 which I wanted to learn the New thing... :biggrin:
     
  12. Tito

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  13. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Been out for good few months...

    sebus
     
  14. Tito

    Tito Super Mod / Adviser
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    Thats right....
     
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  15. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    Has anyone tried xendesktop? And if so, how is performance compared to others?
     
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  16. Tito

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    Welcome dude... Btw is ur problem solved???
     
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  17. FireGunz

    FireGunz MDL Novice

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    Sovle! Looking for Suggestion, new to Virtualization

    Hi Tito,

    Yes it does... :D

    I did dig in more to find on that part about Virtual PC ... which the LINKs is useful even got how to delete the VPC so .... :good3:

    thankyou Tito. :tankyou:
     
  18. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    well my personal opinion is VMware 7.0 just easy for setting up server environment's and single stand alone os's from Ms-Dos to unix and any other os you can imagine.

    as long as the main system has the resources for each VM system .
     
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