Major problem with 9901 and Nvidia driver

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by maddog0266, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    I had 9888 installed with the latest Nvidia drivers since it came out.
    Then this morning I decided to upgrade to 9901.
    Everything seemed to be going good.
    But now when I start my system up it boots, goes to the lock/sign in.
    I sign in, it seem to be doing what it should but then just a black screen, no desktop, no start flag, no task bar.
    I move the mouse, pointer arrow is the but nothing else. Pressing the start key on keyboard does nothing.
    Only when I press ctrl/alt/del does anything show on the screen.

    Any ideals people.
     
  2. speedy1979

    speedy1979 MDL Novice

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    That because explorer.exe has failed to start. Besides opening task manager and starting it manually. I don't know how to fix this.
     
  3. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    That does help a little. But why does the Nvidia driver have something to do with it in this build and not the other builds.
     
  4. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    If you could run the Task manager then click on File and next click Run new task. Type compmgmt.msc into it, select the little box close to Create this task with administrative privilege and click OK. Click your Device manager and locate your Display adapter and uninstall it.
     
  5. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    That did not help at all.
    I even took out my video card
    still same.
    Going to try reinstalling over top.
     
  6. Rock Hunter

    Rock Hunter MDL Senior Member

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    The latest Nvidia driver as of today is 347.09. Is that the version you have installed?
     
  7. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    I think mine is 344.70 but not sure.
    Worked great with 9888 and the other builds.
     
  8. Snuffy

    Snuffy MDL Expert

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    just checked an mine is 344.65 seems to work in all {Pre-Released version.
     
  9. bchat

    bchat MDL Smart Azz

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    I've had to try different versions to get one to work properly. Newest not always the best. I keep 5 versions on a files drive so I have them ready at hand. This has been especially true, for me, since Win 8 betas.
     
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  10. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    Well I am back in and up an running.
    Even after a reinstall same problem so I started going into services and check out what was running, what should be running and so on.
    Even though I removed my Nvidia GT630 card from the system the Nvidia services where still running.
    I went in and stopped them and disabled them.
    Restarted the system and bang my desktop was there.
     
  11. bchat

    bchat MDL Smart Azz

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    Ya' gotta love beta software - more than software - an adventure.
     
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  12. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    Yes I know
    Now I am down to the onboard graphics
    Intel G33/G31
    Sucks big time.
    I wonder what will happen if I put my Nvidia card back in.
    I have gone and removed every bit of the Nvidia driver from the reg. and services.
    No part of it left.
     
  13. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    #13 maddog0266, Dec 27, 2014
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    Well my Nvidia card is back in the system and both monitors are hooked up.
    All is working like it should but not with the drivers from Nvidia.
    Windows installed drivers.
    Don't get it. the other builds did not have drivers and this build does.
    wonder why the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia did not work.


    Funny thing though my task bar is all black not glass. I used to be able to see my desk top picture through it.
    And I can't seem to change that.
    Another thing I noticed is I am missing a lot of metor icons on my start button.
    On my laptop running 9901 all of that is different.
     
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  15. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    I installed the new Nvidia drivers from Nvidia site and everything seems to be fine.
    Will report if it still works in a few days.
    I wonder what was up with the driver and Windows.
    Because I first installed the same driver I had which was 344.75 and no problem.
    That is the driver that I had to disable and remove manually after installing 9901 to get Windows working again.
    And Nvidia updated to the new driver.
    The only thing I can say right now if anyone is using the 344 driver in 9888, remove it before upgrading to 9901.
     
  16. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I am going to say you didn't uninstall it properly from the device management. You possibly forget to select the little box in the dialog of your graphic adapter when doing the uninstall or simply disable it . I am glad it works now.
     
  17. luke

    luke MDL Senior Member

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    I tried to install the Nvidia drivers on my X99 rig and got a BSOD 8 times in a row i don't think there supported on the new windows kernel.
     
  18. maddog0266

    maddog0266 MDL Expert

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    Yes it is supported. What I did was install the 344.70 drivers first then upgrade it to 347 drivers
    Have not had any problems as of doing what I did to get it working.
     
  19. Mitchell7

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    Actually, Whilst NVIDIA drivers may be supported, Windows 10 has not exactly worked correctly on Intel X99 configurations since after Build 9860 and this a known issue. If you install any NVIDIA or AMD GPU drivers on this platform using any Builds newer than 9860 it will blue screen the system with a 0x124 bugcheck.

    Gabriel from the Windows Insiders Program has already confirmed that its a processor specific machine_check_exception due to a shared address violation in L3 Cache which is only present on the X99 platform.

    Myself and others have been troubleshooting this issue for quite some time and the only workaround we have found is to use an AMD GPU in an x8 PCI-E slot rather than x16.
     
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