Moving from Intel to AMD Upgrade advise ?

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  1. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    Opinions on upgrading my Intel i5 4690 to Amd. I run Linux and use case is General workstation with occasional light gaming. Budget is $500
    Motherboard 5500 or 5700 advantages? Brand ? Prefer non RGB leds
    Cpu Ryzen 5 3600 or?
    Memory 16 Gb later to be upgraded. Brand Speed?
     
  2. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    There is absolutely no way to upgrade Intel i5 to whatever AMD. You must build a new computer. You can only use the computer box and some smaller gadgets.
    In fact, you probably wanted to ask how to build new computer in old computer box if you can use $ 500 and you want to use an AMD processor (for example AMD Ryzen 5 3600).
     
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  4. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    LOL.....Yes I know I'm moving to a AMD system (MB DDR4 Cpu)

    As in original post stated : :
    Motherboard 5500 or 5700 advantages? Brand ? Prefer non RGB leds
    Cpu Ryzen 5 3600 or?
    Memory 16 Gb later to be upgraded. Brand Speed?
     
  5. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    Ah....Thats why I was asking for opinions about memory, MB and CPU. I'm not building a new computer I'm using my video card hard drives ssd's power supply and Fractal box. Just slapping in a MB memory and CPU !
     
  6. thorin0815

    thorin0815 MDL Senior Member

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    #6 thorin0815, Jul 26, 2020
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    B550 motherboard should be fine for your needs. An ASRock B550M Pro4 (budget one) if you don't intend to overclock or to use a 12 core+ or for example an ASRock B550 Steel Legend (more expensive, better VRM, cooling and sound).

    The Ryzen 5 3600 is still quite a potent CPU and especially for your general usage a good and cheap choice. For memory I would suggest a 16GB DDR4 3600 MHz Kit, best
    would be to check the compatibility list of your choosen mainboard to choose the right brand and kit.

    If your power supply is older than 4-5 years, I would heavily suggest to buy a new one, but don't buy any no name garbage. A 500W or 550W EVGA/BeQuiet/Seasonic PSU should be more
    than enough for your stuff.

    Maybe you want to consider buying an aftermarket CPU cooler, because the stock cooler included with the Ryzen 5 3600 is kinda bad and can be pretty anoying in terms of noises. Arctic Freezer 34 or Cooler Master Hyper EVO 212 for example are kinda cheap and much better compared to the stock one.
     
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  7. tmf2

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    Thanks thorin0815 !! good information

    I do have a XFX 650 PS modular its solid but a few years old. I planning on the memory kit you suggested and a 3600 or 3700x still haven't decided. The resoning on my choice of Motherboards was because
    they offer dual Lans (1x Realtek RTL8125B 2.5G LAN and 1x Realtek RTL8111H 1G LAN) its seems that is what problematic using Linux with the 550 boards mostly the 2.5G Lan. My thinking was if I could not get the 2.5 to work I would go with the 1G Lan. Many say the Asrock boards don't play nice with linux, I don't know if its true just what my research uncovered. Great advice on the cooler , noise is a factor primarily why I'm not going with a 570 being it has a onboard fan cooling the chipset.

    Dennis
     
  8. thorin0815

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    #8 thorin0815, Jul 28, 2020
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    Do you often encode/edit large videos or do you stream while gaming? If the answer is yes, then buy a 3700x. If not, then the 3600 is sufficient. The same applies to the size of the ram, if yes, then 32GB, otherwise 16GB are sufficient. I wouldn't suggest to buy 2x8GB and later another 2x8GB kit, because most of the time you will end with a pretty low RAM speed when using 4 sticks.

    Regarding the RAM speed, 3600Mhz (latents as low as possible) is kinda the sweet price/performance spot.

    Older power supplies may have the problem, that they often cannot supply the current power peaks that are required for modern CPUs and GPUs.
    I'm using an ASRock B450M Pro4 and before that I had another ASRock board and I never faced any problems while using LInux, at least not with Ubuntu based distributions.

    True is the B550 chipset is kinda new and maybe the kernel support isn't the best out of the box regarding "older" distros, but that goes for all motherboard brands. Just update the kernel and firmware to the latest versions and you should be fine.
     
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    I do not encode or stream while gaming but I do virtual machines from time to time. Just wanted something snappier then my i5 4690 with 24GB ram. So you think the 3600 is enough to feel the upgrade on daily general tasks ?
     
  10. thorin0815

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    I had an i5-4590 before I switched to the Ryzen 5 2600x and I noticed a significantly higher speed in gaming and productive work. The 3600 is again a little faster than my 2600x, so in my opinion it should be enough.

    Alternatively, you could of course also wait a few months and then buy a Ryzen 5 4600. :)
     
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  11. R29k

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    Get a b550 board and wait for 4xxx.
     
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    #12 tmf2, Aug 13, 2020
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    Put together system with MSI B550 Tomahawk board. Ryzen 3600 and 16GB memory. Now video problems.
    My 650ti wont work No GOP/UEFI support on card...........
     
  13. thorin0815

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    The Tomahawk is kinda overpriced if you ask me, especially because manual OC on Ryzen is quite pointless. If it has to be MSI, than MSI's B550-A Pro is a pretty good board and somewhat cheaper (120,90€ vs. 166€ in Germany).
     
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  14. Tiger-1

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    AMD always :D
     
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    Would the switch to AMD be worth it without the gaming? In what productive work did you notice the significantly higher speed?
     
  17. sr2owens

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    Ive had nothing but problems switching to the B550 chipset. First, Ryzen 5 5600 is incompatible with the Asus B550M-A motherboard.
    If you check, you'll see the Ryzen 5 series is incompatible with many motherboards. Check the compatibility websites before buying!
    And then, i wanted to install windows 7 to the B550-A gaming motherboard. The chipset iis incompatible with windows 7.
    I saw a video where a guy got it to work by slipstreaming drivers into the Win7 iso install CD. My question is, do the drivers get loaded even if windows setup doesnt complete? I guess i left something out..... during setup of Windows 7, the usb drivers cut out, leaving no keyboard or mouse to complete the setup. Someone suggested installing windows 7 in a different machine, well that had its own bundle of problems. Anyway, thanks guys for listening to me ramble!
     
  18. CaptainSpeleo

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    That is because of the big improvement in speed and performance between the Intel and the AMD processor.

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