MS Exchange 2013 and Spam control

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by BIOSNOIDEA, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. BIOSNOIDEA

    BIOSNOIDEA MDL Senior Member

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    MS has moved away the Forefront products and unlike Exchange 2010, 2013 has got inbuilt some anti spam. The rest is in the cloud and pay and pay.

    Anyone knows what other third parties can be used instead and under your control and not the cloud?

    I know of Symantec Mail Protection V 7.........................but, anyone knows where to "find this one"?;)
     
  2. RobinGill

    RobinGill MDL Novice

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    Personally I prefer having a dedicated box handling the spam, my first idea requires a bit of cpu power while the second will run on pretty much anything. Untangle with the paid for filter works pretty well. Pfsense with the postfix package also does very well, but it was ruthless with poorly configured senders and wasn't quite as polished.
     
  3. BIOSNOIDEA

    BIOSNOIDEA MDL Senior Member

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    Robin, thanks for your comments. I run my own server at home for 12 years. Started with Merak Mail (Icewarp) and now Keio Connect. In particular Kerio for 7 years. My Spam control (inbuilt in Kerio) REJECTS 99.87 %. That is what Spam control should be in the first place. Not to have 100% detection capacity and ends up in your Spam folder since that takes hard drive space and TCP/IP connections and time..............rejection is what you want.
    With Exchange 2010 I had great results with TMG and/or Forefront Protection. Ultra brilliant but they (MS) have decided they want money in other ways...................the cloud and pay like a phone system...................hi,hi.

    I may look at a separate box but want to keep away from Linux systems. No matter how much we may hate MS all is GUI and works.....................for a price ?:)
     
  4. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Honestly that is plain stupid statement. One of the best Spam firewalls Spamtitan is BSD based & does excellent job with perfect webbased GUI
    It is not free, but like with everything you get what you pay for.
     
  5. BIOSNOIDEA

    BIOSNOIDEA MDL Senior Member

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    If it is not free then I rather use the money for Symantec Mail Security. Linux is a broken Frankstein everywhere. Men hours in the end kills everything. Even lack of consistency among million distros, as they call them They should use their efforts to have one and only one, there and then maybe something will happen and the kingdom of MS desktop will go............

    If I do stupid statements yours are even better. You did not need to say that in the first place...........
     
  6. mattjonesits

    mattjonesits MDL Novice

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    Have used GFI Mail Essentials in the past.
    Websense do appliances (but not sure how much subscriptions are).
     
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    Myrrh MDL Expert

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    Indeed I'm looking forward to checking that out. Unfortunately the administration has changed so much it can be overwhelming. The nice admin tool has been replaced with a slow-as-crap website that does about half of the stuff, I have to learn powershell for the rest.

    So far I've introduced a server to my network but haven't yet figured out how or in what order to migrate stuff to it from 2010.
     
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  9. BIOSNOIDEA

    BIOSNOIDEA MDL Senior Member

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    Thanks, totally agree. To me is going backwards 20 years. I mean, when you look at Office 2013, the graphics are run down, confusing and looks like Windows 3.11 brought back from the time tunnel !
    I am only interested from the viewpoint of learning curve but the management, as you clearly said, is a pile of cr...........