MS U-turn about Start Menu in Win8

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by steven4554, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. steven4554

    steven4554 MDL Addicted

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  2. SL2

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    Speculations?
     
  3. KNARZ

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    Software company Stardock has sold tens of thousands of copies of Start8, a $5 application that restores a fully functioning Windows 7 Start Menu interface to new Windows 8 PCs.

    Omg...! There are so many (better) possibilities... it's just because the name I guess.
    But there is no real hint they may do it. Only more or less the the mystical "analysts" opinion and the 'maybe' pointed out revamping. All just speculations and also 'confusing'
     
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  4. Shayne

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    #4 Shayne, Nov 16, 2012
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    They note you ready have a full page of kindergarden icons that far out weights the now hidden quick launch toolbar :fuyou31:

    I would obviously want 2" x 2" monster icons and have to minimize all windows to get at them instead of small icons on a task bar, oh yes and a slider that I need to locate by touching a 1/8" square at the bottom corner of my 30" monitor so icons pop out in the middle a good 6" away. This is a lame set up that consumes ram every app open and the only way to close them is task manager. What's next no desktop at all.

    Full screen 1 is on the way and will be called "no windows 9" :D

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  5. SL2

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    Don't get your hopes up. MS got loads of feedback from the two previews that didn't have the start menu option, but they went through with it anyway.

    MS prefers lowering the price than listening to their customers, and they think they'll get away with it in a time when there's more competition from other OS's (including Windows 7) than in the last 20 years. We'll see how that works out for them..
     
  6. PaulDesmond

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    Nobody knows what's coming on but I could imagine, that this feature might be implemented in the coming up Windows Blue ???
     
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  7. Shenj

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    Yeah because on server... Oh Wait... it doesnt matter if you have a small Launcher or a big Launcher.

    There really is no need to bring back the old Startmenu, but the Startscreen needs some improvements, Improved Search/Applist/Recent and a new "Folder" View you can Pin, upon clicking it could just create it's own Tilespace with a header name right be, but you can find a shiny (X) on it, clicking it gets rid of the tilespace and it's back into being a little Tile ;) Would fit the Metro expirence, would not work like anything else on any other platform, truly unique... but hey who knows there might be patent out there covering this.. lol Heck i would photoshop all the tiny changes i'd think would fix most of the issues on the Startsceen/Metro but meh, not like anyone @ MS is going to care ^_^

    Also.. just having the the old W7 Start Search back on the desktop would be nice, a little Icon or even a box you can directly type into and it brings up the nice Search window :p, that would be useful as the current Startscreen Search does not work as nice
     
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  8. Shayne

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    Yes we do it is called Linux. Hope M$ enjoys there tablet gang of kids. A gui stolen off Apple is what metro is, no other way to explain it.

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  9. Shenj

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    #9 Shenj, Nov 16, 2012
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    ROFL :rolleyes: ?
     
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  10. pisthai

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    Hm................! Isn't it that Microsoft implemented the Tablet Computers "ages" before Apple?:cool: And isn't it that Apple's OS's iare based on Unix/Linux? Also NOT implemented by Apple?:D
     
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  11. burfadel

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    Microsoft also needs to put back Aero glass. It was there in the consumer preview build 8400, why remove it? It may have been a little performance intrusive on actual low end systems when Vista was release (a lot of people thought they were buying something good but the computers were actually crap), but a lot has changed since then. Computers now are not only a lot faster, even those with just integrated graphics, and the interface has had many performance improvements on it, to the point where Aero Glass has no impact on performance. On top of that, it would have little or no impact on battery life for laptops in Windows 8 either. A simple workaround for that would be to drop back to the current snorefest of a UI if running on battery (but only on a 'maximum battery life' option.
     
  12. Dolorous Edd

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    That would be like admitting they f'ed up
     
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  13. BigW

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    Well at least Apple makes a ton of money from that "tablet gang of kids". By the way have the Apple-Icons or square-tiles :confused: have a statusupdate of there content? Last time I looked on a iThing there where no square-tiles. Everything based on kind of Symbols like an UI-Concept which is 35 Years old.

    After several months of using Windows 8, I think that they easily could have made the metro more manditory and only desktop app run in a box only opened in the metro-UI. Now I wand to close a desktop-app with the metro-swipe.
     
  14. Padpadak

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    Would be indeed more nice, that MS atleast had some option to let the consumer choose if they want Aero Glass or not.
    Than the consumer can choose that (depend of the system they work on,or just because personal taste).

    Many people haven different preferences, when MS should have this option, I think for many people the OS become than more user friendly.
    Not to discuss If Aero glass is usefull or not,about the preferenses of people you can not discuss.
     
  15. Garbellano

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    the new start menu is not just one man decision, a whole team has to approve it and then several teams have to agree. I really doubt that they will take the old start menu. First because that would be a major turns back to them and once is decided stay like that (more because this new interface tries to be one interface, with tables, desktops and phones) and second, because would looks like 7 and no one would buy it.
     
  16. MeMy&Myself

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    No, there is no turn back, the long time Sinofsky's "first officer", Julie Larson-Green is the one in charge now, the path to the future of Windows (the next year update for Windows 8 (code name "Blue") and Windows 9) has been set up. U guys really need to get better sources than Softpedia and wishful thinking.
     
  17. Nimbus2000

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    Of course only Micro$oft would use an OS upgrade to turn my $1,500 computer into a $150 phone... :fuyou31:
     
  18. Shayne

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    And how do tablets fit into main frame? And how does what apple does change what I said? I was talking about mircosoft. You must u a mac with that logic ..... I know not. :D
     
  19. EFA11

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    sorry, thats funny!
     
  20. 3r1c

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    I hate metro.
    I am a programmer with 15 years experience and I had to google how to close an app in metro.
    I figured out ALT+F4 still works but it some metro apps it did not work.
    I mean how is a normal user ever going to figure out to drag the top down, its just stupid.

    MS made a big mistake with this, and they realized it too late, that guy didn't get fired because he did such a great job on windows 8.

    I want to upgrade to windows 8 (for the security and performance enhancements), but I will be installing start8 and get rid of all the things that open metro like when you open a pdf or mp3 so I never have to see it again.

    Why did MS have to remove all traces of the start (in consumer preview you could restore it with registry hack)?
    If advanced users want it back then why not let them?

    All previous versions of windows let you have the style of the previous version.
    Windows 95 had program manager, W98 could turn off web mode, XP could have 9x theme and start bar, Vista could disable grouping/aero, 7 could show the names on the taskbar.