MSI Center laptop battery setting question

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  1. Windows 10 User

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    #1 Windows 10 User, May 11, 2023
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    I set MSI Center to make the laptop only charge the battery until 60% when the battery is below 50% but it begins charging it when it isn't below 50% and sometimes it charges it until 58%/59% or 61%/62%, and even after removing the partition where MSI Center is installed and reinstalling Windows 11, the laptop still charges the battery until 60% (or close). How is this possible?
     
  2. MS_User

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    ghost is the machine;)
     
  3. Dark Dinosaur

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    I did has msi laptop before ..
    I think it saved inside uefi memory chip
    My led keyboard was saved too ..
    So .. it survive any system reset...

    If this answer not good ..
    I think ghost is scientific proof too
     
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    #4 Windows 10 User, May 11, 2023
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    Shouldn't battery settings be on the BIOS?
     
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    #5 Windows 10 User, May 13, 2023
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    Every time I update the BIOS (MSI is delivering BIOS updates often), even though MSI Center set the battery to be only charged until 60% when the battery is below 50%, it passes that limit and reaches 100%. I have to change this setting and afterwards change to the former setting for it to only charge until 60% when the battery is below 50%.
     
  6. Dark Dinosaur

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    So it's prove my point..
    It saved in the uefi memory chip
     
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    #7 Windows 10 User, May 13, 2023
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    I can't even find a BIOS setting regarding this setting after enabling the hidden settings.
     
  8. Dark Dinosaur

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    I didn't either
    I think it controlled by msi app
    Not inside uefi settings..
    Maybe it there ..?
    I didn't look into all uefi settings
    And don't have this laptop anymore..
    Maybe they add it .. and I didn't knew ?
    (After unlock the whole settings)
     
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    On laptops/notebooks, aren't most of these type of settings saved on the EC chip. Things like voltages tables, fan speeds (office/balance/gaming/turbo), thermal, power, keyboard led, etc.
    I think I saw XPG have models where you program the ec to tell it which power adapter your using. ie 280 or 330watt..
    Just guessing by the way...
     
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    I don't know. I wanted the BIOS to have a setting for it.
     
  11. acer-5100

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    It's saved in the NVRAM or other similar storage facility (NV = Non Volatile). That happens in many brand notebooks (and MBs).

    Depending of the implementation could be something that survive even if the CMOS battery is shorted to reset the bios values.

    Think to the bios password. In random mobos it's saved in the BIOS' CMOS so you can reset it shorting the battery, but on brand notebooks like Thinkpads there is no way to reset it other than replacing the chip, (unless some hacking tool finds a weakness).
     
  12. I also have a MSI GP76 Leopard 17' Laptop and it does the exact same thing the gentleman is describing. I think the information settings for the RGB keyboard are stored somewhere in the bios and only controlled using MSI Center, but i do believe that if you were to disconnect the laptop battery and draining power to the bios that the system would reset. Another way i do know that works is when I'm in a situation where i have to do a fresh reinstall windows 11 as that resets the battery settings and sometimes the RGB Keyboard.
     
  13. I do agree that having an option in the Bios to reset the RGB and Battery setting would be handy but i have scoped my bios like a fine tooth comb and there is no setting in there for that.
     
  14. Windows 10 User

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    After doing Windows 11 reinstalls, it keeps the battery setting.
     
  15. #15 Deleted member 578156, May 14, 2023
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    Wow that's weird, well may i ask you why are you so concerned with your battery settings or is it just a control issue pardon the pun? because in the newer laptops of today, its not good to let your battery get to low because if it drops to 0% then it can actually damage the battery. I have my laptop battery set at 60% also but I'm also running a UPS just in case my power temporarily goes out plus its good at filtering the power coming in. Although i do agree that it would be nice to have more options.
     
  16. Dark Dinosaur

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    I used my MSI laptop as a desktop computer
    so end up doing just that ... 60% 80% ...
    It was connected to ups most of his time
    this feature found in Lenovo & asus laptops too
     
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    #17 acer-5100, May 14, 2023
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    It's not matter of "believing".

    If the settings are stored in the CMOS memory they would reset, if they are stored in the NVRAM they wouldn't. And they would reset only trough the dedicated function (if any) in the bios setting and/or from a dedicated application.

    There is not a rule, each maker decide what to do, usually they use an approach consistent across generations, but not even this is granted.

    The only way to know for sure is trying in first person, or asking on dedicated forums where all posters are owners of the same brand/model.
     
  18. #18 Deleted member 578156, May 14, 2023
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    Look i say a matter of believing first off is because unlike some people, I'm not going to make statements i can't back up with facts as all i am trying to do here is just answer someone's question with the little knowledge I'm currently aware of. Try helping out a little more instead of wasting everyone's time analyzing every single word someone says okay! What a Joke!!! and half of what your saying is common knowledge anyways to the mass majority of the people on this forum. What in the heck do you think this forum is anyways huh, it's a forum to help people solve there technology issues specifically computers! Mainly why people come here, to help and get help..
     
  19. Don't even think of attacking me because i am trying to help someone!
     
  20. acer-5100

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    Attacking? o_O

    I just tried to explain how the thing works.

    Usually people say thanks for that.