Not Genuine After 1 Week. Why?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by puffyduff, Feb 26, 2018.

  1. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    #1 puffyduff, Feb 26, 2018
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    This happened on my PC a year ago. Then I solved it by downloading a fresh ISO and tweaking it according to Multi-OEM/Retail Project. Done copying $oem$ and others as instructed. I never had genuine message and never needed DAZ Loader again.

    Then I installed the same Windows 7 for some of my friends(all of which are OEM(branded) laptops), almost all of them got genuine message after 1-2 weeks. For some reason it happens after a while.

    Questions:

    1- Why does it work on my PC but not others?

    From Readme of Multi-OEM/Retail Project:
    "By default, OEM machines with a OEM DM key in the bios will disable oobe.cmd and setupcomplete.cmd files,
    so in order to bypass this issue end user's must use a PID.txt file and save it within sources folder of the iso."

    Could this be the problem? If so, why not a problem for me?

    2- How does genuine message appear? Does it need connection to internet? Or is it some local authentication problem?

    3- Why does the message appear so late like after 1-2 weeks instead of the first day?

    4- Is it possible to prepare a bulletproof installation CD which won't ever show "geniune problem" on any computer?

    @mxman2k @Enthousiast
     
  2. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    MRP will only work if a SLIC table exists in BIOS, all others will need the SLIC Emulation that comes with Daz' Loader.
     
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  3. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    He said that the activatuon worked for 1 week so that means that the machines have a valid slic otherwise the activation wouldn't have succeed using MRP project.
     
  4. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    Alright but, can you answer 2nd and 3rd question?
     
  5. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Don't forget that Win 7 has Initial Installation Grace (normally 30 days from the Install date).

    Incorporation of Daz Loader might help :g:.
     
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  6. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    That might be it, but I doubt 30 days have passed since the installations. I hope we'll figure it out, thanks :g:
     
  7. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    To answer the 2nd question, no the activation does not need internet, the activation is done if all slic, certificate and key match, if it had been bios key, you would have needed the internet so that the activation can be done.
     
  8. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    MRP creates a log that shows what is done by it (it's located at the root of the Windows drive). It will show if a SLIC table was found. Only in that case it inserts the matching key and cert needed for activation. If no SLIC exists it won't do anything regarding activation at all.

    EDIT: Sometimes it can be that an Online Validation is needed.
     
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  9. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    This would be MSDM table which is only present for Win 8 and upwards.
     
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  10. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    NOT SAYING it's bad but Multi-OEM/Retail Project leaves Windows 7 with only 3 days of trial instead of 30 if it can't activates due to the lack of SLIC table in BIOS.
     
  11. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    Yes i know.
     
  12. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Never realized this :g:. Then a rearm will help:
    Code:
    cscript %windir%\system32\slmgr.vbs /rearm
    
    net stop sppsvc
    net start sppsvc
    
    The net options spare the reboot.
     
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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I just want to see the MRP log or the saved log from the QT, that will explain all questions.
     
  14. Tito

    Tito Super Mod / Adviser
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    Well, MGADIAG as well.
     
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  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The MRP log and the QT has all info in a simple to understand layout for most of the questions, specially when the MRP files are used :)
     
  16. Tito

    Tito Super Mod / Adviser
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    Couldn't agree more, but I prefer KISS and don't prefer reinventing the wheel.
     
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  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The OP used MRP, so the first thing is to post the MRP log file, it will tell what MRP found and could or could not achieve, next we can always do an in-depth investigation.
     
  18. mehdibleu

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    The 3rd question he asked in the first post is the real question, it's really strange the activation has failed 2 weaks after it has succeeded the first day, so logically it means that he has a valid slic otherwise the activation would have failed in the first try using MRP project so i am really curious of what @mxman2k thinks of that situation.
     
  19. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Did you see any proof of activation? The log files are created for a reason.
     
  20. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

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    here's what he said :

    i conclude that the activation succeeded the first day then gone 2 weaks later.