Ocz pata ssd 1.8"

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  1. sherman89

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    Hello everyone, first post for me on MDL :)

    I recently bought this PATA SSD from ebay for my Thinkpad X41, and it seems to have only been sold in Japan (and other Asian countries) because I can't find information about it anywhere else.

    I ran the "smartctl" tool on the drive and it informed me that it's unable to know if SMART is enabled, which is scary to me, other than that the only information it gave me was that the ATA Verion is "ATA/ATAP-7" and the Firmware version is "20090521".

    Is there any tool I can use to figure out what type of controller it has or any other details, so I can look for possible firmware updates? or at least enable SMART?

    The device model is "OCZSSDPATA1-64G", it seems to have been released in 2009. Screenshot:

    oczssdpata1-64g18.jpg

    I've installed on my X41 now, and installed Debian on it, and it seems to work just fine. Would be nice to have some information about this SSD though.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. sherman89

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    @Bat.1
    It would be cool to learn Japanese, but I don't have the time for that, so Google Translate will have to do :) If all else fails, I'll post on the OCZ Gurus page, thanks

    @JFKI
    Thanks! I came across that too but didn't know what to do with it really. Are there any Hitachi SSD tools for Linux that can auto-detect my drive? Quick Google search resulted in nothing

    @ms User
    Didn't find my SSD there, could it be the Vertex? If that was the case then the OCZ SSD tool that I tried when I still had XP installed should have detected it I think.

    @John Sutherland
    I tried the smartctl tool before, but it failed to detect SMART or enable it. The other tools weren't of too much help either. I'll post my results here:

    Code:
    sherman@X41:~$ sudo lshw -c disk
      *-disk
           description: ATA Disk
           product: OCZ-PATA-64G
           physical id: 0.0.0
           bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
           logical name: /dev/sda
           version: 0521
           serial: OCZ64I09122500000043
           size: 59GiB (63GB)
           capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
           configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=a3e340f2
    
    Code:
    sherman@X41:~$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda
    
    /dev/sda:
    
    ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       OCZ-PATA-64G
        Serial Number:      OCZ64I09122500000043
        Firmware Revision:  20090521
    Standards:
        Supported: 7 
        Likely used: 7
    Configuration:
        Logical        max    current
        cylinders    16383    16383
        heads        15    15
        sectors/track    63    63
        --
        CHS current addressable sectors:   15481935
        LBA    user addressable sectors:  124420096
        Logical/Physical Sector size:           512 bytes
        device size with M = 1024*1024:       60752 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:       63703 MBytes (63 GB)
        cache/buffer size  = 1 KBytes (type=DualPort)
    Capabilities:
        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
        Standby timer values: spec'd by Vendor
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 1    Current = 0
        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 udma6 
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
    Commands/features:
        Enabled    Supported:
           *    SMART feature set
                Security Mode feature set
                Power Management feature set
           *    Write cache
           *    Host Protected Area feature set
                WRITE_BUFFER command
                READ_BUFFER command
                NOP cmd
                SET_MAX security extension
           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
    Security: 
        Master password revision code = 65534
            supported
        not    enabled
        not    locked
            frozen
        not    expired: security count
        not    supported: enhanced erase
        2min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 
    HW reset results:
        CBLID- above Vih
        Device num = 1
    Integrity word not set (found 0xaa55, expected 0x5da5)
    
    Code:
    sherman@X41:~$ sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
    smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [i686-linux-4.7.0-1-686] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, wwwDOTsmartmontoolsDOTorg
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model:     OCZ-PATA-64G
    Serial Number:    OCZ64I09122500000043
    Firmware Version: 20090521
    User Capacity:    63,703,089,152 bytes [63.7 GB]
    Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
    Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is:   ATA/ATAPI-7 (minor revision not indicated)
    Local Time is:    Sun Oct  9 13:31:04 2016 EEST
    SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    
    Code:
    sherman@X41:~$ sudo smartctl --smart=on --offlineauto=on /dev/sda
    smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [i686-linux-4.7.0-1-686] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, wwwDOTsmartmontoolsDOTorg
    
    SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
    A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
    
    The relevant error message is "SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.", but it does say that "device has SMART capability" so I guess it does support it.

    I tried to add the "-T permissive" option as the tool suggested, here's the result:
    Code:
    sherman@X41:~$ sudo smartctl --smart=on --offlineauto=on /dev/sda -T permissive
    smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [i686-linux-4.7.0-1-686] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, wwwDOTsmartmontoolsDOTorg
    
    SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled.
                      Checking to be sure by trying SMART RETURN STATUS command.
    === START OF ENABLE/DISABLE COMMANDS SECTION ===
    SMART Enabled.
    SMART Automatic Timers not supported
    
    SMART Enable Automatic Offline failed: scsi error badly formed scsi parameters
    
    I guess SMART is enabled, but Automatic Timers (whatever those are) are not supported, and another error is "badly formed scsi parameters".

    Thanks for the help so far!
     
  4. Hadron-Curious

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    What an interesting SSD you have there. What I understand about the information you have on your tests is that it possibly supports SMART but might be a controller issue that might require firmware upgrade. Looking at the rarity of that particular SSD you better forget about the possibility of getting a new firmware.
     
  5. sherman89

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    @Hadron-Curious

    Yeah it seems to have been especially made to replaced HDD's on older laptops.

    This particular SSD has a PATA (IDE) interface and is 1.8" in size, that is already almost impossible to find. The only other kind of SSD of this type that I found were a "KingSpec" brand on ebay which I never heard of so I didn't trust it. OCZ is a more trusted brand so I went with that.

    I could have bought a SATA to IDE converter and attach a 1.8" SATA SSD to it, but because I'm lazy I didn't want to do any extra work.

    Perhaps talking to the OCZ Gurus would be my best chance of getting any information about this device.

    I'm glad it works but hopefully it won't break in a year :)
     
  6. Hadron-Curious

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    It seems to be a quality SSD despite being old. The origin of that SSD looks like Taiwan rather than Japan - although, it is a Japanese product(OCZ is Toshiba's). It makes a lot of sense to speak with them to have better idea of the features on how to best manage it.
     
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  9. sherman89

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    Thank you everyone for your input, I really appreciate it!

    The speed indeed isn't what you'd expect from an SSD, but at least it's a lot quieter than an HDD!

    @T-S
    I suppose I should have done that from the beginning, I was too lazy and as soon as I saw a known-brand PATA SSD and also 1.8" inches in size, I had an urge to buy it. Perfect fit, and you really don't see them on the market anymore!

    If (when?) this SSD breaks, hopefully not, I will take the adapter route. So far it seems to be running well though. :)
     
  10. LatinMcG

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    do yourself a favor.. goto ebay and type Lenovo T520 and have 120$ and a SSD sata. problem solved
     
  11. T-S

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    it has an ugly 16/9 display. Better to get a good T500. SSDs can be easily replaced, displays does not.
     
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