OEM Activation 3.0

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by AdFad666, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. AdFad666

    AdFad666 Guest

    #1 AdFad666, Jun 4, 2011
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    It's probably too early in the game, but has anyone found anything related to the new OEM activation process?
     
  2. consume

    consume MDL Member

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    Nobody has said anything about desktop PCs. That Michael angilo guy specifically says that its a requirement for ARM devices, or devices with 2.2tb or more storage space.


    But thinking about it, it'd make the most sense to have it only support uefi bios, as all new motherboards are uefi. And if that's the case, hopefully by then there will be a uefi slic emulator ^_^. I imagine it'd work like the efi emulation when booting osx on a pc.
     
  3. In©ž

    In©ž MDL Member

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    worget about it now, its still no idea to see how it is :)
    totaly worthless thinking of it it will be using cloud feature so idk if it will be easy to get genuine or not, i think it will be hard
     
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  4. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    MS didn't say UEFI is a requirement for Win8. They only said that OEMs may only preinstall win8 on computers with UEFI.
    Win8 will run fina on any BIOS mainboard though.

    So I think the chance is 99.99% that OEM act 3.0 will be based on UEFI, otherwise they wouldn't force OEMs to use UEFI for win8.
     
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  5. .NetRolller 3D

    .NetRolller 3D MDL Novice

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    /me has a gut feeling that TianoCore is gonna replace "SLIC loaders" for Windows 8.
     
  6. compaq66

    compaq66 MDL Novice

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    that life in the computer world

    windows 8 is bull s**t os,:mad: as allways
     
  7. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    As always? Not even betas are leaked and you're saying its already a BS os.

    Please tell us why...
     
  8. AdFad666

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    #8 AdFad666, Jun 4, 2011
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    This is a test.
     
  9. CLoNY

    CLoNY MDL Novice

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    Bios or UEFI all MS operating system is hackable
     
  10. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    That's correct, but some methods are unreliable and hard to find out.
    Bios mods are the platina bars for windows activation. Loaders and kms emulators (or an equivalent) are the gold.
    Rearming is the silver.
    Methods that tamper with files are as dirty as rusty iron.
     
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  11. hey_tommy

    hey_tommy MDL Novice

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    The way you said that, reminded me of a line from the Amageddon where that Russian engineer yells "Russian computers, American computers... all made in Taiwan!" Lol..


    I'd say pretty much EVERYTHING is hackable - MS OS's notwithstanding.
     
  12. lejohn

    lejohn MDL Novice

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    Rumor is that every machine will have it's own unique SLIC table/serial inside the bios so it will not be possible to insert a generic SLIC table.

    UEFI bioses can already be modified for SLIC 2.1, but the future will tell us if SLIC 3.0 will be as stricky as it looks at the moment.
     
  13. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    We'll see if OEMs are willing to do the effort needed to give every machine a unique ID.
     
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  14. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    Personally I dont think so. Needs alot of effort im sure off, they would also have to keep a database of each sold machine with its unique ID.
     
  15. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    Agree, if they would go the each-machine-unique-way than I think it would be easier to give every machine a different key, if needed with help from a tool made by MS.
    But I don't see the UEFI having somegthing unique for each machine (except for serial number).
     
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  16. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    No UEFI wont have a unique ID for each computer besides its modelnumber and serial as it is today already.

    Sure they can but its too much work and MS nor OEM manufacturers will do that :p Violation of integrity or what could it be called?
     
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    I think so, tcntad. You can call it that.
     
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  18. lejohn

    lejohn MDL Novice

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    It would indeed be a hassle to provide a unique key to every machine. I've heared from a source at a notebook production factory in China that they are already working on making this happen.
    If this is true MS needs to control every sold key and check this with some kind of KMS server in order to keep control. Peronally I think this is to much work for the time spent and gained result.
    But time will tell what outcome will be......
     
  19. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    #19 Stannieman, Jun 10, 2011
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    The control over the sold keys would just be the same as it is now with retail keys, but only bigger.
    But if you think about it it isn't that hard to make.
    Every computer of a spicific model has exactly the same contents on the hdd, so before the hdd is put into the case, it must have been connected somewhere and an image (the same for every hdd for that pc model) was written to it.
    If they get a list of keys from MS, they could write a bat file to each hdd which installs a key. The first hdd gets
    Code:
    slmgr -ipk "KEY1"
    slmgr -ato
    The 2nd gets
    Code:
    slmgr -ipk "KEY2"
    slmgr -ato
    etc...

    It's quite easy to create these batch files with each one a different key.

    If that batch is the copied to a run once folder, and also to the recovery partition, it's all ok.
    From then it's up to MS to manage it.
     
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