Hi all After a bit of advice Just done a new install of 8.1 but have just figured out that I cant activate office 2013 retail like I used to be able too i.e over the phone I tried using advanced token manager which I used to back up office and windows 8 (not 8.1) activation status but apparently I can use that to restore the activation of office on 8.1 - how frustrating Even tried copying the data and tokens files from a previous acronis image - (with office activated) to the new install but that didnt seem to work either Ive tried various keys but when trying the phone activation nothing seems to work? Is there any way to get office 2013 retail activated on 8.1 (other than to buy the software of course) perhaps by using files from the acronis image or can I convert to VL and activate another way Not used to VL way but just wanted to check if that can be activated before continuing any further Thanks for any advice