Office MAK

Discussion in 'Microsoft Office' started by thethingy, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    right, you get a virtual server to activate via kms and with mak you get a mak key that's probably verified against a kms/mak style server so who's making the mac server hack? is it possible? , if i get a mak key how do I record the data that's been sent back to office to tell it its a valid key and there is no more activation needed?
     
  2. WinFLP

    WinFLP MDL Senior Member

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    MAK activates against Microsoft servers in the same way as a retail key. With KMS it seems it's a dumbed down version of the normal activation server.

    If the normal retail activation challenge/response were broken, that would represent the crown jewel.
     
  3. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    Welcome here Thingy,I think you know me....
    I don't think its possible to record those,KMS and MAK Keys are entirely different...
    As WinFLP said it would be a greatest hack of all,but it was not possible yet,because it might be so secure.
     
  4. myhken

    myhken Experienced MDL Tester

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    The MAK key is just like a normal key, that connects with MS activations servers. And nobody has manage to simulate Microsoft's own activations server. If anybody had managed that, you could use it for every retail key also.
    But KMS is easy to simulate, since MS have given large companies the possible to run their own KMS servers on site, therefor the possible to run the KMS server locally also with a hack.
     
  5. myhken

    myhken Experienced MDL Tester

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    It's not allowed to post keys on this forum. And the key has only 330 activations left, so it's empty tonight.
     
  6. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Worked but yea no retail or MAK keys :p...lol
     
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  7. unknownzd

    unknownzd MDL Member

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    well I have got several MAKs for Office 2010 but don't want to post them here since I don't want to get blamed and also don't want to cost any money for the company used those keys ...... so well you can pm me for them if you need them :p
     
  8. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Now you will get 1 million pm's and your pm will always be full :p...lol
     
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  9. unknownzd

    unknownzd MDL Member

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    btw I am getting headache after reading these things about ECC lol

    Elliptic curve key generation
    Let E be an elliptic curve defined over a finite field Fp. Let P be a point in E(Fp), and
    suppose that P has prime order n. Then the cyclic subgroup of E(Fp) generated by P
    is
    P = {āˆž, P,2P,3P, . . .,(nāˆ’1)P}.
    The prime p, the equation of the elliptic curve E, and the point P and its order n, are
    the public domain parameters. A private key is an integer d that is selected uniformly
    at random from the interval [1,n āˆ’1], and the corresponding public key is Q = dP.

    P.S. ECC is used to generate key since Win2k3 (and prolly in Vista too but don't know if it is true or not)
     
  10. unknownzd

    unknownzd MDL Member

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    well those MAKs are leaked long time ago already so I am pretty sure someone else had them too :p
     
  11. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Just letting you know how many thousands of people read what we say at MDL...lol

    And you'll still get the pm regardless :D
     
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  12. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    @unknownzd I see you've started to look inside the license files.

    I got an idea, don't know if it will work.

    Now installing these license files are what enables OSPPSVC to allow a key to be installed. So I'd say these files control what keys can be used.

    I had an interesting idea. We have a "Bypass" key for starter. We have license files for OEM_Bypass and starter. Perhaps if we look at the differences and toy around with the files, we can make OEM_Bypass license use "Starter" key, which effectively would just change the types of keys, as in making Pro Plus take standard keys instead of Pro Plus keys. The SKUS dictate what apps can use them, in effect, Starter SKU only works on Starter Word and Excel (Which are dumbed down versions of regular Excel and word). So we would be taking advantage that OEM_Bypass is for all apps, but forcing it to use Starter key instead of real OEM_Bypass key.

    I'm not sure what kinds of protections go into this, now all files I believe are signed somehow, but that means any change from original MD5 would be invalid. However I got my Starter files by fishing into the tokens file, and saved them with notepad which could result in a slight difference, yet I can install licenses and use starter key.

    I can send you license files for both, I can't think of a nice way to see them readable AND at the same time be able to edit them.
     
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  13. unknownzd

    unknownzd MDL Member

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    I don't think that could be achieved ..... but still wanna have a try for it ..... anyway I am out for sleep now :) see ya
     
  14. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    I don't think the license files verify the key, that's probably pidgenx.dll. However these licenses allow certain keys to be used somehow. I don't know if my proposed method would work, but office apps learn what they are a part of in a simple way. They look at the "Registration" key. It will have a SKUID for the office product and skus for each license type. It then reads the license status with OSPPSVC. You can install Standard VL and install Pro Plus retail license, but it is the registration key that tells office what suite it is in.


    Now, there is probably something preventing us from making modded license files (don't know if it could be patched out), but the license files seem to play into what keys can be accepted. I don't know if you could force a product to accept a key from a different license (I mean trick office into believing Starter key is OEM_Bypass key, or more specifically, using Starter key to activate OEM_Bypass license, as you see that Retail is just waiting for a key, I don't know if it could be hacked to accept a non OEM_Bypass key)

    It makes me wonder, what marks the key as acceptible, and if the key is acceptible, what forces a product not to use a different key? We know we can validate a key and get info with pidgenx.dll, but there is a system in place that says you can't use key for Product X on Product Y, beating that system would be the ultimate hack as we have a Starter and a Sharepoint Designer Bypass key. We'd be activating office with the only starter key made by MS. If they simply blocked the key (which would take OGA as key isn't used online) they would kill off all starter, but it would be easy to see we used modded license.

    I know these license files are the key. No suite exists that contains Visio and Project, yet as a Technical Preview Mondo used one key for all apps. This license was made by MS and as you can see its the license that dictates what apps are allowed to use the key.
     
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  15. xrdguy

    xrdguy MDL Novice

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    will anyone be kind enough to PM me MAK key of Office 2010 64 bit pro edition.
     
  16. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    I checked and all mine are dead.

    I think the supply is running short so even if you get one it will probably be gone fast.
     
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  17. xrdguy

    xrdguy MDL Novice

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    CODY.. I found one MAK key and was able to activate office. Then I used your tool to backup the licence. I named it as Backups, to verify that this backup licence works. I uninstalled and reinstalled Office. Now when I click restore in licence back up option. i get this error.

    License Restore Failed!
    Here is a more detailed description about the error:
    Your Backup Backups Was Not Found.

    Is there any solution to this..
     
  18. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    There is supposed to be a "Backups" folder in same folder as toolkit. Inside it should be the backup you made.

    So if you named it backups, it would be \Backups\Backups
    and toolkit in same folder as root backup folder. What a bad way to name your backup though. I recommend giving a name that means something like ActivatedMAK or something.
     
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  19. xrdguy

    xrdguy MDL Novice

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    Ok.. I followed the instruction and this time I saved licence back up as office 2010 Licence.. and then in backup name i typed Office 2010 Licence. then hit restore and this is error message I am getting.

    License Restore Failed!
    Here is a more detailed description about the error:
    Restore Failed! Data Before Trying Restore Has Been Restored!
    Your System Is The Same As It Was Before Trying To Restore!

    But it still is not activated..