P2V Move WinXP OEM Thinkpad to VHD based VM on Hypvervisor & maintain XP Activation?

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  1. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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    #1 crashnburn, Dec 16, 2012
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    P2V Move WinXP OEM Thinkpad to VHD based VM on Hypvervisor & maintain XP Activation?

    XP OEM - License & Activation Issues:

    I have an old Thinkpad T series that came with OEM XP Pro pre-install. I've used it for many years and want to maintain it but as a VM.

    (Thinkpad BIOS now has Middleton Modified Whitelist Fixed SLIC 2.1 BIOS so that I can could install Win 7 on it, maybe after migration)

    Now, I haven't done any SLIC 2.1 or related Licensing activities or hacks on this particular T61 + WinXP OEM Preinstall.

    I looked around and read that when migrating to a VM, XP could bring up LICENSING/ ACTIVATION ISSUES. Is there some way to prevent the VHD/VM from doing that?

    I'd love for the licensing/activation to be stuck to the VM as it will be like having a LEGACY system around for when I want to play with it.

    Anyway to preserve the OEM licensing? Or some hack/ convert into another type of license - before or after doing P2V?

    PS: I'd prefer to avoid Loaders etc, if possible.

    HYPERVISOR ISSUES?

    - I'd prefer to have this on a baremetal type 1 Hypervisor that has LOW overhead and allows my VMs to be as close as possible to the hardware
    - Also, a Hypervisor which has decent support & power savings for use on a Laptop/ Thinkpad T61 would be great.

    Now, once the P2V VHD is ready I intend to use one of the following Hypervisors (in order of preference) on the same T61:

    1) Citrix XenClient Enterprise (Supposedly has one of the best Laptop HW/ Power support among Type 1 Hypervisors.
    T61 is part of Citrix Xen supported HCList)
    I'd like to see this work well as I think it's amazing to run low ovehead Hypervisors on a laptop.

    2) MS Hyper-V or VMWare ESX - This is a less preferred option as I seem to be reading that they are not that "laptop hardware" friendly
    3) Maybe MS Hyper-V might have decent laptop support (since Win8) but I also read something about not being able to play and work in the VMs directly on the Local Machine. Apparently, it will only allow access from another machine

    Is there TRUTH to the points 2) & 3) ? I seem to reading this at various places across the web.

    I'd like to have a self-contained Laptop/Battery friendly Hypervisor with various Demo/ Product VMs executed locally as & when needed. (Not planning on running MANY VMs at the same time).

    What are my options here if you have any thoughts on this?

    Note: I see the Hypervisor Host/ Guest BIOS mods for activation. Please do guide me on my options above for both issues.
     
  2. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    #2 sebus, Dec 16, 2012
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    Last time I tried Citrix XenClient I was using unsupported laptop, so my experience was far from acceptable & I gave up on it
    Hyper-V & ESX are NOT for a single VM use (do your homework), correct, you do NOT access VM directly from a console - they are server solutions

    Use lightweight Linux distro (ie. Fatdog64 - Puppy based) & run Vmware Workstation on top of it

    The you can mod the BIOS to run XP to Server 2012, just about any Linux distro & even Mac OS X

    Do not make the issue complicated, XP activation ONLY needs a single SLP string! How about visiting this part of the forum to learn?

    sebus
     
  3. crashnburn

    crashnburn MDL Senior Member

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    #3 crashnburn, Dec 16, 2012
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    I am going to check it out for sure and write back.

    That's pretty much what I found in my homework (80 tabs on browser window - lots of homework) that they need remote access. Any idea on how different (heavy/ lean) are the HyperV on Win8 vs the standalone Hyper V?

    That might the next alternative to try after I try my hand at the new Citrix XenClient. I've never enjoyed the performance of Virtual Machines so much so I wanted to see how well the Type 1 Hypervisors perform.

    So can I mod the BIOS for pretty much any Host (VMWare, HyperV, CitrixXen)+Guest Pair scenario or is it easiest with VMware platform? (Based on what I am reading on MDL).

    As I said, I am doing my homework but at times when one read so much it tends to get mixed up in the head and cause more confusion :)

    Thank you sebus for reading through and replying. I appreciate your time and suggestions. I have never run across any XP activation scenario as I've only had laptops with OEM BIOS and they have always worked with an OEM WinXP CD/DVD ISO. So, my learning there has never happened.

    On the other hand, I've spent some time in understanding the SLIC 2.1 BIOS mod thing (versus the Loaders etc) for Thinkpads because I've installed Win 7 on another Thinkpad X61T. Maybe XP is simpler compared to that so it got over-complicated in my head.

    I will go through those forums, but before I do.. Can you answer this.. Is it possible to have my existing preinstalled OEM XP maintain its original license/ activiation AS IT IS... when virtualized into a P2V VM? Or will it get deactivated and then have to be re-activated with the existing or new "Single SLP String"?
     
  4. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Yes, it is possible, that is why you chose virtual environment that is good & easy to work with (Workstation).
    You just get (or do yourself) modded BIOS with IBM (or Lenovo) string & you are done.

    You change hardware (P2V), but XP activation will not even realize that

    Again, do not make a big issue out of it

    Xen Client findings (forgot I even wrote it)