Putting Together a New Pc / Gonna Be Using Win 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by puffyduff, Mar 28, 2018.

  1. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    Hello.

    So for all the mess Intel has created for Windows 7 with last 2 generations I don't wanna bother with strange techniques to make Windows 7 work/update on newer Intel CPU's. Finding Windows 7 drivers for the motherboard is also a pain in the ass.

    So I'm wondering if it'll be perfectly good choosing AMD Ryzen (1500x or 1600) over Intel.

    Also I'd like to see a suggestion for a motherboard for AMD Ryzen (Budget- Semi budget). Keep in mind I'll need it's official drivers for Windows 7.
     
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  3. ThomasMann

    ThomasMann MDL Expert

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    To see a difference between Intel and AMD, is the same as seeing a difference between Apple and MIcrosoft, Only blind people can see it....
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    AMD's only make a lot of heat, no performance ;):D
     
  5. Ocygord

    Ocygord MDL Senior Member

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    I'm affraid you're out of luck. AFAIK no manufacturer is still releasing Windows 7 drivers for their devices.
    As such, you have 4 choices - none of which are ideal:
    • Buy a new computer and install Windows 7 using hacks for the OS and for the drivers. This results in loss of system stability and performance and is generally very difficult to achieve.
    • Buy an old computer (4-5 years) with full support for Windows 7 (Microsoft and manufacturer drivers). Pointless effort - hardware is crap.
    • Buy any computer and install Windows 10.
    • Buy any computer and move to Linux.
    My personal opinion is this:
    Seeing as you want to use 7 tells me you're not really into gaming. Windows is dying and a change is necessary - things will never be as they were back when 7 was released. Linux will offer you security, performance and no bulls**t. Moving to Linux is your best chance here - you will not find games for it but everything else will work the same or better than they ever would've ran on Windows. You will also not need to spend much on this system as Linux is designed to work on any hardware and is much more optimized than Windows at every turn. If you do decide to do this, know that there will be a learning curve but will be worth it.
     
  6. Atak_Snajpera

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  7. PointZero

    PointZero MDL Member

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    If you're thinking of getting AMD, you might want to hold off a few weeks since they're about to release new chipsets and processors. You'd probably get a B350 chipset motherboard currently, but very soon, the B450 chipset will be available and it offers advantages.

    Plus, they'll be releasing Ryzen 2 processors very soon which offer advantages at roughly the same price as current processors.
     
  8. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    #9 puffyduff, Mar 30, 2018
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    I'll just go with Intel if AMD doesn't offer any relief for Win 7.

    I really like Windows 7 and never wanna leave it. However I definitely need a new generation CPU.

    @Atak_Snajpera I'm checking your little tool buddy. However, I think even if you solve Windows 7 "installation" problems by tweaking the iso(with usb drivers and stuff), how would you deal with the new generation motherboards drivers and intel drivers? You know intel patched meltdown and spectre and there are more exploits coming out. I also doubt even Realtek would bother releasing win 7 compatible drivers for it's modern ALC codecs. So, what do you think?
     
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    puffyduff MDL Member

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  11. Atak_Snajpera

    Atak_Snajpera MDL Junior Member

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    For drivers you visit Intel website not some msi middleman. One thing won't work for sure is iGPU (intel arificially removed support in drivers). Rest you have in my package.

    • Intel AHCI
    • Intel Chipset
    • Intel DPTF
    • Intel IO
    • Intel LAN
    • Intel MEI
    • Intel NVMe
    • Intel USB
     
  12. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    That's great because most people don't need iGPU anyways. It's a marvellous tool then. Thanks.