RAM Usage

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Fr3aKk, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    Hello guys, I am noticing that Win 10 keeps using a lot more RAM than Windows 7 and 8.1.
    1st. The system process is using usually over 200MB RAM.
    2nd. The non pages pool is around 500MB RAM.

    So in total thats ~600-700MB RAM down the drain. This number should be lower.
    The first few entries in poolmon.exe (I can't use link or image yet):
    Memory: 3964984K Avail: 1135456K PageFlts: 3481 InRam Krnl:24728K P:163440K
    Commit:3425080K Limit:5890692K Peak:5276252K Pool N:491408K P:240060K
    System pool information
    Tag Type Allocs Frees Diff Bytes Per Alloc

    FMic Nonp 11658118 ( 12) 11339709 ( 0) 318409 168151312 ( 6336) 528
    Irp Nonp 23380974 ( 463) 23061546 ( 451) 319428 163073456 ( 3696) 510
    CM31 Paged 219529 ( 0) 202216 ( 0) 17313 78929920 ( 0) 4558
    Even Nonp 53460108 ( 900) 53134738 ( 891) 325370 41654016 ( 1152) 128
    MmSt Paged 2058049 ( 2) 2046049 ( 1) 12000 30320768 ( 2064) 2526
     
  2. Elinor

    Elinor MDL Novice

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    And they say that Win10 is faster than good old Se7en lol
    I even installed the non bloated LTSB and it is definitely using more ram as well...
     
  3. GOD666

    GOD666 MDL Expert

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    Oh really? :confused:

    See screenshot of fresh install of LTSB usage.

    Using less resources than I ever did with Windows 8 ;)
     

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  4. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    Damn... I wanted to avoid that clean install again. I think the non paged pool goes high after I wake up my laptop from hibernation.
     
  5. GOD666

    GOD666 MDL Expert

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    I often turn off power save mode. I change it to the high performance profile and then tell it to never turn off my monitor. It ends up using more resources and thus more power, than it saves. Turning things off manually maybe an inconvenience, but really all it is is an extra few more seconds to start, shutdown, and you save more anyways.
     
  6. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    It may be some driver windows auto installed, so when I reinstall I will connect to the internet when first I prevent windows from auto installing stuff... Thanks!
     
  7. LiteOS

    LiteOS MDL Expert

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    use process explorer taskmgr dont show "working set"
     
  8. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    #9 Fr3aKk, Aug 14, 2015
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    i(dot)imgur(dot)com/bpq3Sgx.png is what I get. :g:
    I might as well jump to Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N and get rid of the things I don't like here on the Pro like all these apps I will never use...
     
  9. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    It's a simple fact W8/W8.1/ and W10 are faster than w7, which in turn is faster than vista. The ram usage is about the same.
     
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  10. LiteOS

    LiteOS MDL Expert

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    system is doing something updating or checking diag...
     
  11. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    Doing it all the time? It's not updating because I have the updates waiting to be downloaded when I want it. So idk really...
     
  12. jet29

    jet29 MDL Member

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    i have win 10 running with avast and chrome running only with 44 processes running. i have all telemetry disabled. i have disabled as many services as i can and system is running fine no problems so far no crashes. i have win 10 x64 4gb ram on dual partition with win 7, currently activated on windows insider with full reinstall done.
     
  13. LiteOS

    LiteOS MDL Expert

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    run px at startup and dont open any apps yet
    open them one by one to see if system memory usage going up

    did u modify the OS ?
     
  14. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    Will do. As for the modifying all I did is play around, deleting all the telemtry s**t.
     
  15. SpeedDream

    SpeedDream MDL Addicted

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    nice, damn mozilla uses too much ram I suggest opera or chrome
     
  16. Fr3aKk

    Fr3aKk MDL Novice

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    No, that's my usual Firefox. It has ~300 tabs. Pretty sure chrome will be worse.
     
  17. odiebugs1

    odiebugs1 MDL Expert

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    To anyone who reads this post worried about RAM usage.

    The entire reason we have RAM is so the system uses it, if your system doesn't fill RAM then it's worthless, ( depending on amount ) . The more the system uses with continually used programs means the better the system is using RAM for faster response.

    System using 500MB non paged, God bless win 10, now the kernel and device drivers have stored data that might be accessed when the system can’t handle page faults.

    Unused RAM is scary.

    If you bought a system with less then 4g for a 32bit OS and less than 8g for a 64bit, SUCKER.:p
     
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  18. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    Yes, this is absolutely true. An OS should use RAM. If it uses a lot of RAM it will be faster. RAM is cheap. I would worry if my RAM were NOT being used.
     
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  19. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    #20 lobo11, Aug 14, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2015
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