Relative privacy with Windows 10 Enterprise (LTSB), noob edition?

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  1. IAmAPC

    IAmAPC MDL Junior Member

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    To continue from here...

    As a relatively newbie to Windows tinkering, I was recommended Windows 10 Enterprise (LTSB) for maximum privacy/mimimal effort (relatively to Windows). I don't have to worry about activating it, let's say.

    What are the necessary steps I need to take, explained in a newbie friendly way to regrain my privacy (as much as possible) in windows 10 Enterprise (LTSB)?

    What @ProudPirate and @JWilly mentioned in the other thread are Chinese to me. a newbie-friendly step by step to the Enterprise (LTSB) edition would be appreciated!
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Privacy and Windows 10 are two separate planets
     
  3. IAmAPC

    IAmAPC MDL Junior Member

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    Speaking of Windows 10 Enterprise. LTSB edition. In this thread, I was recommended still, this is my best bet. In the Windows ecosystem. Am I missing something?
     
  4. BAU

    BAU MDL Member

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    LTSB 2016 is outdated and you might bump often into annoyances that have been solved in the current branch. It's also picky about recent (gaming) hardware.
    My advice: Windows 10 Education.
    It offers more control than Pro when it comes to privacy. It's also readily available in the general consumer branch so no licensing shenanigans and hunting every time for the business esd's and iso's.
     
  5. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Senior Member

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    LTSB 2016 is based on RS1 while MS just released RS4 so it is outdated hence the "issues" with certain latest gaming/newest hardware & possibly some other scenarios(like upcoming new gen processors/mobos/gfx card) too.
     
  6. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    There is no such thing as privacy in a public arena, and the internet is a public arena. You will have privacy until you connect to the internet, then no matter what OS you use, you can kiss privacy away. This is the same as what occurs when you step outside your home. You are no longer private. So stop living a privacy pipe dream, and just use whichever OS you want, and browse the internet. It is all the same. I use the newest build of Windows which is RS5, and have no privacy issues. I install with MS account, and MS recommended. I do not worry. Life is good!
     
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  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The whole purpose of LTSB is staying the same for the long term ;) 5 + 5 years of support and no frequent upgrades, they never should have released it for general use. It's a specific OS for specific tasks.
     
  8. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    No issues with gaming here. It mostly affects UWP games from Store ...but since they're crap i don't mind :cool2:.
     
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  9. BAU

    BAU MDL Member

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    I've seen more than a dozen gaming laptops (latest asus rogs and acer predators) having issues in some games, driver problems, dp, hdmi, widi output issues etc.
    People hunt for more fps and think that LTSB would be perfect, but it really is not for gaming on latest hardware. It does work a lot better for older machines, which coincidentally - fits it's purpose :cool:
     
  10. John Sutherland

    John Sutherland MDL Addicted

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    There are no gaming issues with Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016 as far as I'm concerned. As a matter of fact, the reason I installed it was because I experienced huge slowdowns while trying to run games on both Windows 10 Spring Creator's Update (Build 1703) and Fall Creator's Update (Build 1709). No problems since.
     
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  11. Feniksrising

    Feniksrising MDL Junior Member

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    Absolutely, a lot of issues that gamers have with win10 aren't present in LTSB. Things like that awful XBox app or windows suddenly deciding to download an update.

    Windows 10: I am assuming direct control
     
  12. plasmah77

    plasmah77 MDL Novice

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    Recently installed Window 10 LTSB 2016 on a i5 8400 with a Geforce 1060 6gig on a Z370P motherboard. No issues at all here with games and system runs awesome. I even trimmed the LTSB ISO down further using Toolkit Version 8.6. After install did a few more of my own tweaks one of which was to boot with a Linux 64 CD and mount the Windows system partition and perm delete that got damn RuntimeBroker.exe. This system is running smooth and fast! Thanks to all you guys here. Cheers!
     
  13. kb117

    kb117 MDL Novice

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    Can you point me in the right direction(links) on how you did what you did, esp on that RuntimeBroker.exe. tia
     
  14. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Senior Member

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    You can delete any windows system file by simply booting through a live linux usb/cd & then just go to the file location & delete it.However why would one want to delete runtimebroker is another thing as this exe only consumes ram when using UWP(aka apps) applications on win 10 which ltsb doesn't have to begin with.In case one uses UWP apps then this exe is essential because without it your privacy settings can't be applied to apps which will then force windows to close those apps without running them.
     
  15. BAU

    BAU MDL Member

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    You don't need linux to simply delete files, you can just shift+click restart - troubleshooting - advanced options - command prompt.
    You could also run a GUI if you place Explorer++ / Total Commander somewhere, and then launch it directly by path ( D:\Tools\x64\Explorer++.exe )

    But, why would you delete OS files and compromise your system? who knows how many errors you will get because of that, breaking features.
    Really want to block something from running? Use IFEO!
    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\RuntimeBroker.exe" /v Debugger /d "%Windir%\System32\systray.exe" /f
    
    And to be safe, before doing such experiments, make an undo.bat that you can run from under troubleshooting - advanced options - command prompt
    Code:
    pushd C:\Windows\system32\config
    reg load HKLM\Undo1 SOFTWARE
    reg delete "HKLM\Undo1\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\RuntimeBroker.exe" /v Debugger /f
    reg unload HKLM\Undo1
    
    Be a tweaker, not a butcher.
     
  16. LocoMan

    LocoMan MDL Novice

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    Which toolkit is it? I mean the one you used to trim down the ISO.
     
  17. LifeIsNotEasy

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  18. Kim100

    Kim100 MDL Senior Member

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    Ever update has been a completely unnecessary pain in the arse, they have been of no benefit to me, just change for change sake. Most hardware manufacturers still provide driver support right back to Windows 7, why should LTSB have a problem?