[REQUEST/INFO] Windows 98 Editions for collectors

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  1. Threat

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    only one I have different from your list and it isn't in ISO form.

    Win98 FE Upgrade

    Code:
    File: PRECOPY2.CAB
    CRC-32: 049fbe1c
       MD4: 3874cebc540859e280a7b09e0f673811
       MD5: c29dc3a3ab095a589622fa0b654d31f2
     SHA-1: a3af646b68b42b365b73b0e707ae9acf717ca133
    
    1.27 MB (1,332,799 bytes)
    
     
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    Well for FE, there are 2 editions - original one issues in May 11th, and was reissued in 24th November due to Java lawsuit - can you upload the PRECOPY2.CAB for me please :)
     
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    Ok the 1 from EFA was Retail Upgrade (102), and the 2 from Oz were both OEM Upgrade (116) for FE and SE.

    Oz: Do you have full untouched ISO's? I've added in some ISO SHA1's from what I have untouched?
     
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  6. Oz

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    So according to your list, what I thought was a MSDN SE, is actually a retail. Bummer.
     

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    For 98FE, they produced a full CD with all extra's for MSDN channel. This was effectively the same as retail, but with a different PRECOPY2.CAB and an added MSBATCH.INF to pre-enter the product key. This CD included all extras and without knowledge of the 2 changes, would look identical content wise to a retail ISO.

    When they next updated the CD, they did it differently. Instead of a full CD with all the extras on, they included a folder for WIN98 containing the re-issued WIN98 folder from FE, and a second folder for SE with the WIN98 folder and most (but not all) of the extra files.

    They never produced a full CD for SE MSDN channel that kept the same structure as retail/OEM CD's.

    Applied patch ... does this match the ISO of your OEM upgrade?

    Code:
      File: en_win98_oem_upgrade.iso
    CRC-32: 8113d1ee
       MD4: 29799d9221ac8faf2169573f5b446a35
       MD5: 84b73c4988da64af6c42ef092dcd8c6a
     SHA-1: 4783ac7d217f4db09227a4dbec8d22e87aa8e62e
     
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  8. Oz

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    They never do things the logical way do they?

    Yep, same SHA1
     
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    As crazy as it sounds ... The file they released on MSDN for SE was the retail and not the MSDN build. Most people who think they have the MSDN build because they got it from MSDN or the same hash as MSDN. Infact the MSDN builds were (as far as I know) only sent on the physical monthly subscription CD's to MSDN subscribers...

    Do you have a Delta for the SE OEM upgrade iso also?

    The same btw was also true of ME. The version on the site is "Retail" but there is an "MSDN" CD also only shipped on disc (full CD version)

    You can rely on M$ to be unpredictable.
     
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    There are a few ME that I have seen, including a MSDN, OEM (Boot) & Retail. Only difference between Retail & MSDN is a included serial.
     
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    They pulled the same trick on ME - The site offered the retail version but the media sent out contained MSDN one

    Code:
    Full CD
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      File: PRECOPY1.CAB
    CRC-32: 8ff376b4
       MD4: 9c6e209dd4925fb9f58a4764bf9e06a2
       MD5: 222953b77a9daf129add3108889abdd9
     SHA-1: dcacaec35b9185c946262872c40a22b94adf191c
    
    Size: 2,696,980 bytes
    
    Product Type: 101 - Microsoft Windows ME 4.90.3000 Retail CD Full
    
    ISO SHA1: 6b95da74ef1695ff78e495afb7aeea991a85260c
    Code:
    MSCD CD
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      File: PRECOPY1.CAB
    CRC-32: 75a0645c
       MD4: 3619cf617aa1ababe55bb255febc0066
       MD5: a8e0994e24014653a04168ec0e9b13bc
     SHA-1: 6e72c1ff3e7aaa6dc8a415d30a268c238dee52a7
    
    Size: 2,696,980 bytes
    
    Product Type: 111 - Microsoft Windows ME 4.90.3000 MSDN
    
    ISO SHA1: 7e13981281e3a08416bb94fec654c176f3a891e5
    Got some other builds of ME also - which I will add later to this list.

    ME is my least favourite Windows OS as it would not even install on my PC when it came out - my PC was a 'modern' PIII 733 with an ABit mother board. It hung during hardware detection even with all extra hardware removed/bios features disabled. You can tell it was rushed out to fill a gap in the home user between 9X and XP as 2000 was not ready for 'home' use.
     
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  12. Oz

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    #12 Oz, Apr 11, 2014
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    Yeah, those are the two I have as well.


    Almost forgot, could you do a delta for the FE Java update, using original OEM FE as source?


    Code:
    c95fe41b1bc7c83e16bdd9ec8cbd97866552a06b -> 7c7a79ce3f21749f7e2160e96337d57a64ffbb92
    
     
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    Done :) ........
     
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    Found a Windows 98 FE v2 upgrade CD ... added to list.
     
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  15. Oz

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    #15 Oz, Apr 14, 2014
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    ME OEM

    Code:
      File: PRECOPY1.CAB
      Size: 2.53 MB (2,658,480 bytes)
    CRC-32: 1955c09d
       MD4: 1a6e9c59664a2ecae3367f099582dbd2
       MD5: 1c26d13fbcbafca54b00a3441273f145
     SHA-1: ca966100563cc7cce2362dd82dee75e4fa2f4870
    
    ISO SHA-1: 
    
      File: en_winme_oem.iso
      Size: 498 MB (522,991,616 bytes)
    CRC-32: 9aa2616d
       MD4: 90d01bce26e399f460dd8d973081faa8
       MD5: dd644769d2fa411029456425116a011d
     SHA-1: 25a7c617b3fc0e009e2ce5e7b5d4bba82537d8be
    
     
  16. Oz

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    So guess this thread is due for an update Threat?
     
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    Going to send you something in the next day or so that will generate all 98v1,98v2,98SE and ME images - just finishing up the script now.
     
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  18. Oz

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    #18 Oz, May 19, 2014
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    I think I have them all, at least all listed above and one which you haven't updated to include full ISO sha1

    Code:
    OEM CD Upgrade
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      File: PRECOPY2.CAB
    CRC-32: 0e23563e
       MD4: 4a23d1ac6eddfe1f8c39a9f2b9280ee8
       MD5: 0d0cb4276e9ff29f83ff1c8458d4a484
     SHA-1: 87cc7263aa6ce36cd8bd0e0a84f13609f5352cb9
    
    Size: 1,336,231 bytes
    
    Product Type: 116 - Clean install using OEM CD
    
    ISO SHA-1: promisedmyselfnottoshare:):):):):):):)
    
    
     
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    Yep those type 116's are funny ... never understood what they were for until today ...

    With all those other files slightly changed requires a bit more work to reproduce than a replacement PRECOPY2.CAB and running CDIMAGE :)

    But done :D Matches the SHA1 of yours that you sent to me.
     
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  20. ibmpc5150

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    I wonder retail full version of Windows 98 FE v2 (24/11/1998 - Reissue following Java settlement) has never been released.
    I know retail full version of Win98 exist as FE v1 (CD Type), SE. (I remember Floppy version of FE could be ordered from MS directly only by using coupen or post card within Retail full package.)