Reserve Win10 upgraded for unused Win7 licenses and non-uppgraded computers

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by windows.seven, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. windows.seven

    windows.seven MDL Junior Member

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    I have 3 Win7Pro make-genuine keys purchased from MS for converting some non-genuine machines to genuine. However I have not yet used them, thought I would do so when I format the PC.
    I also have one PC with genuine Win7Pro running.
    My question is, can I reserve a Win10 upgrade for the non-used keys and also the Win7Pro machine and upgrade later if I wanted to?
     
  2. TheOldScout

    TheOldScout MDL Novice

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    As far as I have heard, the free upgrades end next July. I have upgraded to 10 and then regressed back to 7. I wonder if I now have a "digital entitlement" on that particular machine to use anytime later on.
     
  3. trungpt

    trungpt MDL Addicted

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    I had a genuine Windows 8.1 coming with the machine and kept a full backup of this machine with Windows 8.1.

    After that, I formated the machine and installed Windows 7. I'd like to know how to reserve a Windows 10 licence for a later free upgrade from my genuine Windows 8.1.

    However, I think it would be very hard.
     
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  4. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    #4 endbase, Mar 16, 2016
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    Just upgrade with the key to windows 10 and if it is Activated it will be HWID that means it is stored on the Microsoft servers to your hardware id so you can install what ever you want after that !

    If you then go back to windows 10 it will activate against your hardware ID no worries so far ;)
     
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  5. trungpt

    trungpt MDL Addicted

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    I guess I have to (1) backup my current Windows 7 to somewhere, (2) restore my Windows 8.1 back, (3) Upgrade to Windows 10, (4) restore Windows 7 :(
     
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  6. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Addicted

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    Skip step #2. Daz'd copies of Win 7 can get Genuine Win 10.
     
  7. Gharlane00

    Gharlane00 MDL Addicted

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    Digital Entitlements are machine specific. You must do the upgrade on the machine that you intend to use Windows 10 on later.
    I am personally hoping that Digital Entitlements that are not in actual use on July 1 are rendered invalid. The whining will be incredible.
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    If the keys for 7 are legit then you should be able to activate win 10 after 29. june 2016. Afaik, only the free upgrade (and later free reinstall) offer ends on the 29. of june 2016.
     
  9. Gharlane00

    Gharlane00 MDL Addicted

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    Isn't using Win 7 keys to activate Windows 10 a major part of what the free upgrade program is?
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Upgrading is the major part of the free Upgrade program ;):D
     
  11. ypvs

    ypvs MDL Novice

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    I have several OEM W7 machines that I want to reserve W10 on. My plan is to remove the HD each time, insert a spare HD, fresh W7 install with SP1 and IE11, do the upgrade install from USB then swap the original HD back. Format and repeat.

    Any flaws in this plan? I know a certain amount of hardware change is allowed
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Should work, you have till the end of june 2016 to get them a HWID :)
     
  13. trungpt

    trungpt MDL Addicted

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    I heard this before but have never tested it. I will try soon.
     
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  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Because the windows loader emulates an oem bios (oem as in acer, hp etcetc) the upgrade will get a genuine HWID, but this should be stopped by MS at the end of the free upgrade offer (end of june 2016). Since 10586 is released windows 10 accepts win 7 retail and oem:non slp (systembuilder) keys/8.x retail, bios oem:Dm keys and oem:non slp (systembuilder), afaik that won't stop. We'll see :)
     
  15. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    have to do on each machine HWID.. but you can just run the GatherOSState.exe to send hwid to ms to make that pc win 10 digital activation enabled i believe.
     
  16. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    Everyone keeps saying Win 7, Win 7= Win 10 Home, you need Win 7 Pro = Win 10 Pro, and go straight from Win 7 Home Premium or Win 7 Pro to Win 10, Home or Pro. Just have key ready.
    After you have HWID and can go back to whatever you want, and return to Win 10 whenever you want, that's how it stands right now, but if MS comes out on July 29 and says the free upgrade apply's only to those who were running Win 10 on or before Jul 29, Well we all know and love MS, surely, something to think about :confused:
     
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  17. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    win 7 ultimate = win 10 Pro BTW
     
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  18. Yen

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    AFAIK the creation of GenuineTicket.xml from w7/w8.1 by GatherOSState.exe is an offline process. Later on w10 when being online it will be delivered to the M$ servers. THIS is the process of issuing the license/register the HWID. To create/keep the genuine ticket would not yet save a license IMHO.

    To 'reserve' a license I'd completely upgrade the machine to w10 and go back to the current installation by restoring a previously created backup image. IMHO no second HDD/SSD needed.

    Just make a backup image of the current system (Acronis or something)
    Create the ticket
    Install w10 and import the ticket.
    Activate w10 on M$ server.
    Restore the backup image and overwrite the w10 installation
     
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  19. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    to add to it.. the GenuineTicket.xml is good for 30 days right ? :confused:
     
  20. Yen

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    I don't know, but it can be that it expires....all people I know never kept it more than a few hours since they wanted an activated w10 ASAP :biggrin:
    Or they did the ordinary upgrade process where the ticket is fetched by the M$ server during process.

    Once activated the license stays for 'a lifetime' of the PC..

    I think if M$ should end the free upgrade offer they'll do it on the server side and do not accept any ticket anymore regardless of date of creation.
     
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