Rufus Won't Make Bootable USB Installation Thumbdrive for Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Bravo_Echo, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Bravo_Echo

    Bravo_Echo MDL Novice

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    I have:

    en_windows_10_pro_10240_x64_dvd (3.71 Gbytes)
    Rufus 2.2 (Latest version)
    16 Gbtye SanDisk Cruzer Thumb Drive

    I made a Win7 USB boot drive last week, so the only thing new here is the Win10 .ISO.
    It's failed half-way through the process four (4) times.

    I take the standard, default settings. Is there something special one has to do with Win10? I've done some research and I find no evidence that there is something special about Win10.
     
  2. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Make sure your thumbdrive is not defective.
     
  3. SpeedDream

    SpeedDream MDL Addicted

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    could be the iso or pen drive, check pen drive with full format and get another iso if pen drive's ok
     
  4. garyHalcon

    garyHalcon MDL Novice

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    What kind of computer are you booting from? I had to use fat32 for my surface pro for it to boot.
     
  5. kaos420

    kaos420 MDL Senior Member

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    i used rufus today to upgrade no issues at all.
     
  6. peck1234

    peck1234 MDL Member

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    #7 peck1234, Jul 21, 2015
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    Plug in the thumb drive.

    Now open command prompt

    type "diskpart"

    "list disk"

    "sel disk #" (#) (the number that corresponds with your flash drive)

    "clean"

    "create partition primary"
    -----------------------------------

    Now rufus away... Make sure your using the right bios/gpt sceme that coinsides with your motherboard or else the flash drive wont boot.
     
  7. MASVA

    MASVA MDL Novice

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    i use Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool and works with 10
     
  8. Mutagen

    Mutagen MDL Addicted

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    No problem here with Rufus and both 10162 and 10240 ISOs.
     
  9. specialex

    specialex MDL Novice

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    rufus is hassle free
     
  10. Bravo_Echo

    Bravo_Echo MDL Novice

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    So when I 1st read these posts I was annoyed because, well duh, everyone knows that thumbdrives either work or they do not. They don't "sort of" work. And actually, as it turns out, they actually do sometimes "sort of" work. The 16 Gbyte SanDisk Cruzer (standard Walmart grade thumbdrive) had just been used to install a Win7 installation, so it COULDN'T be defective, but after I had Rufus "check for bad sectors" and it found 256 bad sectors, I did some Googling and long story short I ran a low-level format on the USB drive (took over 2 hours) and the 5th time of running Rufus was the charm.

    It works now.

    Lessons learned:
    Don't ignore the obvious. It's obvious for a reason.
    Don't get mad at people that post the obvious. They might know you are dumb when you do not.
    Thumb drives can have bad sectors.
    Low-level formats ARE actually good for something (I've been reading about them for years and figured they were shiny objects for autistic idiot computer savants to play with.)

    I wonder if instead of doing "Quick Formats" (NTFS), if I had done a regular "long" format, if that wouldn't have fixed the problem just as well, and in much less time. 2 hours +, literally, for this low-level format tool to do it's thing.

    I had several false starts, including Easeus something-or-other, "Dr. UFD" (which wouldn't even run) and a couple of others, until I found a recommendation from hddguru and the download came from hddguru and I was gold. (hddguru, btw, is the most trusted site I know of. Nothing stupid gets past those guys. Anyone posting anything stupid gets gang butt-raped to death, i.e. "Death by Boola-Boola".

    hddguru.com/software/HDD-LLF-Low-Level-Format-Tool/

    So I'm gold now, and thanks for the numerous responses. Where are all you folks when I CAN'T fix the problem myself? Booted to my shiny new Windows 10 USB Installation Drive and discovered that Win10 will not install on a GPT partitioned hard drive, nor will it convert a GPT partitioned drive to NTFS, so I'm going to have to do some preparatory work before I try to install Win10 tomorrow.

    Thanks again for all the responses.

    After the low-level format, it worked in NTFS. I have an older HP desktop with a quad-core CPU and 8 Gbyte of DDR800 RAM running in dual channel. Nothing fancy.

    Thanks, I swear by Rufus, but am always interested in alternatives.

    DOS commands give me the "meat sweats" ("Progressive" commercial, aka "Flo" reference). I have a monster under my bed named "Sudo". I appreciate the help. Might help the next person, though.

    I saw that while I was at the MS download page, and briefly considered using it. It's nice to see Microsoft making tools that 90% of their Users can't (not smart enough) use, lol... I'd like to see my mom making a bootable USB drive, roflmao.

    Add my name to the list of successful Rufus/Win10 ISO Installation USB drive makers.

    Given the popularity of the thread, etc... I'd like to think about future readers and what else they might want to know. One question I had was, what is the best Win10 ISO image to use, and what is the best source for it. I got mine from a site that starts with a "K" (I don't know what forum rules are here about that kind of thing), and all I'm really doing is putting my toe in the water. If I decide at some point to actually commit to Win10 and use it as my daily system, what is the best version of Win10 to use, and where do you get it. I've seen several different names thrown around "RTM", "Build xyz" etc..., so any clarity in that respect might help me later, as well as anyone else reading this thread.
     
  11. senbros

    senbros MDL Novice

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    probably your drive is faulty..mine works perfetly
     
  12. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    guess you missed the in depth lengthy post above yours hahaa
     
  13. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    @Bravo_Echo:



    I like that part of your post a lot. Even several members (with self claimed good technical knowledge) of MDL had condamned several post of mine on this forum regarding LLFMT using the Tools from HDDGuru! Such outcome had bring me to an point to keep quiet to some extend.

    Fact is everybody will have it's ow experiences while working with computers for hard- and software. Fact is also, on the Internet, special in forums even like MDL is a lot BS! Special those humans who need to show of with their (maybe not available) knowledge, predicting to know better what happen on an machine on which they would not have their hands on and even claiming that, what the owner/user of an Machine had archived successfully, could never be happen!! Fairness is something what quite some humans never will know what that is, they only claim to knows best (of all)!

    Regarding formatting of an storage device, simple fact is, normal formatting will never 'clean' an storage. Those format will just delete the first letter and replace with an sign and that applies for both Fast/Quick Format as Normal Format too! The quick format just deletes partly the FAT (File Allocation Table). This kind of formatting, both fast/quick and normal, lets recover the deleted contend of an Storage. Using Low Level Format will really remove every content of an storage include what's placed on Track Zero, everything will be gone forever, irreversible to recover, That's also called Zeroing! What that apps LLFMT does is that Zeroing and also to re-register all physically bad sectors of that storage device. We could also say, LLFMT set the storage device back to virgin stage!

    Personally I use LLFMT for many years with great success include providing Recovery Services for Customers.
     
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  14. scootcha

    scootcha MDL Novice

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    #15 scootcha, Jul 21, 2015
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    The 16GB Sandisk Cruzer is a bit "eccentric" in that it can look like a fixed hard drive instead of a standard removable USB. I battled with it when trying to create an earlier version of a hackintosh installer.

    Google "sandisk 16gb looks like hard drive" for additional info.
     
  15. mrlgm007

    mrlgm007 MDL Novice

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    Rufus worked fine for me. :)
     
  16. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    I like your learned lesson: Thumbdrives actually "sort of" work, sometimes.
    Yes those devices can be defective in various ways, fortunately yours was fixed with HDD-LLF-Low-Level-Format-Tool, the one I always use to fix things lol
     
  17. shawnmos

    shawnmos MDL Member

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    I had issues with Rufus and Windows 10 homebrew isos for some reason. However, using the Windows 7 Bootable USB utility instead worked.
     
  18. genenioo

    genenioo MDL Addicted

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    Were you using front or back USBs? The front is cabled to the motherboard so is often not that reliable--you've probably gotten errors indicated that it's not in 2.0 mode but only 1.1. If using the front, I would use the back since that's right off the motherboard, and is always more reliable.
     
  19. cbutters

    cbutters MDL Junior Member

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    I know what is going on.... you used Rufus, changed it to fat32 and gpt.... but then, you selected the iso... you didn't realize that the fat32 and got setting went back to normal ntfs after selecting the iso, you didn't notice, and you wrote the thumb drive ntfs instead of fat32. Rufus seems to lose selected settings, so verify them twice before hitting start.