Screen scrambling in Win7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by eatup, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    I get screen scrambling in Windows 7 almost everyday. I don't know what causes it, but I'm guessing something must have tripped the DRM system. It occurs randomly, but can happen as fast as a few minutes after a boot, to several hours of usage.

    What my screen looks like during scrambling is if you've ever had an old CRT monitor, it looks like it's trying to show an unsupported screen resolution. The interesting part is that it's somehow correlated with the mouse pointer. If I move the mouse pointer to the bottom of the screen, I can sometimes get the scrambling to stop. Soon as I move it up, the scrambling restarts. Also, scrambling is worst on the part of the screen right below the mouse pointer.

    I've encountered this before at around Vista launch. I've always thought that it was a driver related issue. But, by the time Win 7 was released two years later, this should have been resolved, but didn't, which led me to think DRM system being tripped as Vista was the beginning of implementation of such DRM system. I'm usually doing things like surfing the web when this happens. Not even trying to play video illegally, etc.

    Anyways, if anyone else has a similar symptom of scrambling screen on their PC laptop, how did you manage to permanently fix it?
     
  2. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    It sounds like a faulty video card...
     
  3. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    #3 eatup, Jan 20, 2015
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    It's not the video card nor display. I've had this same exact scrambling happen on three different laptops with different video cards. Which is why I'm led to believe the DRM mechanism (or protected video path, as Microsoft calls it) being accidentally tripped each time it happens...
     
  4. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    If it were "DRM" then playback of content would not work/play. It would not scramble your screen.
    I still think it sounds like bad ram on your video card. Get Burnintest & try testing the video ram for errors...
     
  5. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    This screen scrambling is clearly not a hardware issue but an OS issue, since it's happened to me on three different laptops...
     
  6. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Did you use the same ISO/DVD on all of that machines for installation?
     
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  7. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    Nope. I also got scrambling screen first time I installed Windows 8.0 upgrade. That was the last time I touched 8.0, but might retry seeing how the laptop manuf updated their Win8 drivers...

    Same scrambling on three different laptops and diff. flavors of modern Windows, tells me its a DRM/OS issue not hardware...
     
  8. locob

    locob MDL Member

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    Sounds like you or your machines are haunted!!
    I've never come across anything remotely like what you describe in over 20 years as a computer tech, builder, etc.

    :spacecraft:
     
  9. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    Exactly. That's why I don't buy this DRM/OS issue.
     
  10. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    Um, no. When Win 8.0 was released, I installed it on my 4 month old laptop (not preview but with actual purchased license). Screen scrambled. Went back to Win7 immediately afterwards.

    And... it happened today again, on a different machine than above, in Win7, after 4 hours online...

    These kernel 6.x OSes officially suck. Back to WinXP I go. FYI WinXP has never scrambled screened on me not even once on all three laptops. It's the DRM mech being tripped when they implemented in Vista onwards...
     
  11. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    Today, I will try something different. I will keep a record of the screen scrambling.

    Logged onto Win7 about 5 minutes ago...
     
  12. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    Yup. My screen got scrambled after I spent 15 minutes on IE11.
     
  13. oldsh_t

    oldsh_t MDL Addicted

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    This really sounds weird. But what is more weird is the fact that this seems to be only happening to you??
    You say this happens on 3 different laptops, are they all your laptops??
    Are all these laptops running in your house??
    You did say you were going back to XP, did you get the scrambling on XP??
     
  14. Aninvitedsoul

    Aninvitedsoul MDL Senior Member

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  15. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    My screen scrambled again 3x today, all within 20 minutes of opening IE11 in Win7. Maybe some component of IE is causing the graphics to malfunction in the OS. I'm thinking maybe the javascript engine of IE is the culprit, causing some kind of memory leak in the GPU...

    Will try an experiment tomorrow where I'll refrain from using IE11 and see how the system behaves.
     
  16. nodnar

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    #16 nodnar, Jan 23, 2015
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    very fascinating.. if you`ll excuse me to say so... i had umpteen driver issues back in vista days, but never screen scrambling..
    the things that cross the wicked walrus`mind... shun ie11 for now.. i would try dillo, or d+.. since it has no java support to speak of.. and download winpatrol, plus kill anything in startup that you do not know.. or do something wicked and add a mousedriver from mouse manufacturer in config .sys, and see what happens.. even, even, now i am cursing in the church, of course, allergic as i am to linux, i would make a usb stick with that.. maybe it could kill your ghosts.. just my 2 cents.. ;)
     
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  17. Aninvitedsoul

    Aninvitedsoul MDL Senior Member

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    Is this still going,different three laptops screen scrambling :eek:.I think you wasted a lot time doing nothing to the issue.Since there is no detailed diagnosis of the problem,it would be illogical for some of us trying to help.We need technical INFORMATION about the problem so somebody can help.
     
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  18. oldsh_t

    oldsh_t MDL Addicted

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    Since post #11 he seems to be talking to himself and setting up a TO_DO list.:confused:
     
  19. Aninvitedsoul

    Aninvitedsoul MDL Senior Member

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    Really,I feel like I'm talking to myself.I won't post anymore since there is no response to what we say.
     
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  20. eatup

    eatup MDL Member

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    #20 eatup, Jan 24, 2015
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    Swapped in another HDD yesterday w Visual Studio installed in Win7. Screen went scrambly after a while, but took much longer to effect than with IE11 opened. They say XP explorer has a memory leak somewhere. That seems to be nothing compared to Win7. The whole OS seems to be a big memory leak, which is why I'm getting all these hardware problem(s) on the same dual-booted machine where it works flawlessly in WinXP...

    I'll have to give Win7 a hand though. It lags more than WinXP, but doesn't seem to get my laptop as hot (better CPU management?)

    Btw, what kind of feedback were you guys expecting when noone has a clue why this is happening across multiple portable devices?