Seagate 2TB FireCuda purchase help

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by whizkidraj, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. whizkidraj

    whizkidraj MDL Giveaway Organiser

    Apr 6, 2012
    252
    1,215
    10
  2. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

    Jan 12, 2012
    2,526
    1,368
    90
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

    Jun 18, 2012
    597
    264
    30
    Taxes will be charged only for those states in which the shipper has a bricks and morter presence

    If you were getting it from the UK there would be a 20%vat export tax

    ...T
     
  4. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

    Jan 12, 2012
    2,526
    1,368
    90
    Just states "Amazon" as the shipper. They are very good at hiding exactly where or who this drive comes from. I've gotten things from Amazon without having to pay a tax, So I can not tell if there provider is in my state or not
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

    Jan 12, 2012
    2,526
    1,368
    90
    #5 Joe C, Feb 23, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2018
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

    Jun 18, 2012
    597
    264
    30
    I think you will enjoy the Firecuda , that big ssd cache means that common things get loaded very fast
    have had 1Tb working on an E5430 for the past year
    works great

    ...T
     
  7. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

    Jun 14, 2017
    1,009
    212
    60
    Just to be clear, the advantage of having SSHD is that you can combine some of SSD speed with the HDD but it will never have the speed of a real SSD. someone can confirm this ?
     
  8. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

    Jun 18, 2012
    597
    264
    30
    #9 tonto11, Feb 23, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
    Right on. Those things that are commonly used, like I said, get put in the cache and load from the ssd , very quickly
    all other stuff on the hdd part of the drive loads at hdd speed ,
    so it has the speed of an ssd when you really need it, like when the operating system ( o/s) is being loaded
    and hdd speed when you load something you seldom use.

    ...T
     
  9. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

    Jun 14, 2017
    1,009
    212
    60
    sorry i have some difficulties to understand the words in short form, so what do you mean by o/s ?
     
  10. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

    Aug 15, 2012
    15,151
    20,584
    340
    Slightly cryptic but from the context Operating System is meant.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

    Jun 14, 2017
    1,009
    212
    60
    that's what i thought as well but wasn't sure, i will be waiting for him to confirm it.
     
  12. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

    Jun 18, 2012
    597
    264
    30
    Sorry about that, I should not have used the shorthand o/s for operating system I edited the post to clarify
    thanks s1ave77 for reducing the confusion

    ...T
     
  13. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

    Jun 14, 2017
    1,009
    212
    60
    Please don't be sorry my friend, you could not know that.
    What about write/read speed ? and transfer speed ? is it equal to write/read speed and transfer speed of a real SSD ?
    to be clear, when you said "all other stuff on the hdd part of the drive loads at hdd speed", what other stuff are you talking about ?
     
  14. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

    Jun 18, 2012
    597
    264
    30
    #17 tonto11, Feb 24, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2018
    Well I can't compare a real SSD because I've never had one, but boot time with the Firecuda on an E5430 is about 35sec where with a 5400 hdd it's between 60 and 90 secs. The operating system gets used all the time so it's stored in the ssd cache
    Other stuff like the program you use only once a month never gets stored in the cache, but if you start to use it regularly parts of it get put in the cache.


    This is analogous to what the firecuda ssd/hdd does for you. It enables you to pull out a program or a piece of the program quickly do the calculations and put it back
    You don't have to consciously manage the process though, that's done by the system.
    PS
    Whizkidraj's first video by NCIX explains it nicely, but I didn't see that before I posted mine

    ...T
     
  15. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

    Jan 12, 2012
    2,526
    1,368
    90
    An X170 board with an i5 Skylake cpu, using a Samsung 960 NVMe SSD boots to a usable windows in about 6 seconds.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. mehdibleu

    mehdibleu MDL Expert

    Jun 14, 2017
    1,009
    212
    60
    yes that's what i was about to say, i've been told from some friends who have SSD that they need only 10 seconds to access windows session when starting the machine. That's quite impressive.
     
  17. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

    Jan 12, 2012
    2,526
    1,368
    90
    SSD drive's are nice options to have, you can get more done quicker because your not waiting for apps to open
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...