So so confused about which Windows 10 ISO to download :(

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by joshu, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. joshu

    joshu MDL Junior Member

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    Hi as the title states I'm so confused with Windows 10 download options.
    With Windows 7 I also got the MSDN enterprise ISO and used Cody's MS Toolkit to
    activate it using a local KMS server. This was wonderfully simple and didn't
    involve any hacks just stock Windows from MS.

    I can't say the situation seems to be the same with Windows 10. There
    are so many different versions I don't know which one to download or
    how to activate it.

    Please help me navigate the Windows 10 minefield.
    Happy holidays!
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Why is it any different?, get the Win 10 Enterprise ISO if you want Enterprise....
     
  3. strotee

    strotee MDL Novice

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    Look for en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso. (LTSC 2019) then use KMS_VL_ALL to activate.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #4 Enthousiast, Dec 25, 2018
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    There are just 2 different iso's, the Consumer (OEMRET) and the Business (VOLUME) ISO's, the content can be found at the OP of the windows release thread, 1809 (17763.1 / 17763.107 / 17763.194) is the current sticky one.

    And Enterprise 2019 LTSC is available (17763.1 and 17763.107).

    Content of the most current 1809 refresh iso:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...-17763-1-107-pc-r.77945/page-219#post-1491770
     
  5. drodudrast

    drodudrast MDL Novice

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    That's the wrong ISO. The correct one is named en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_be3c8ffb.iso
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Content of the the 2 2019 LTSC released iso's:

    en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso
    Code:
    [01] 9/15/2018 en-US x64 10.0.17763.1 Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC | EnterpriseS
    [02] 9/15/2018 en-US x64 10.0.17763.1 Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSC | EnterpriseSN
    en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_be3c8ffb.iso:
    Code:
    [01] 10/30/2018 en-US x64 10.0.17763.107 Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC | EnterpriseS
     
  7. joshu

    joshu MDL Junior Member

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    Ok I had a look at your link and I found this:

    ```
    7153e3071366017a24c1fda22c0d1e486dbb0401 *en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1809_updated_dec_2018_x64_dvd_f03937a3.iso
    ```

    Does that mean that that ISO ^^ is what I'd download from MS if I had Volume license access?

    When I run SVF2ISO I get the following and the ISO name and has are different:

    ```
    10:36:18 CHECKING MVS PREREQUISITES
    10:36:18 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    10:36:18 Language: en-us
    10:36:18 ISO Name: SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_Ent_Edu_N_10_1809_64-bit_English_MLF_X21-96501
    10:36:18 ISO Hash: 6208b319de3aaf0d8ec5b8d0f710e2744f89d0b4
    10:36:18 EVAL Name: 17763.107.101029-1455.rs5_release_svc_refresh_CLIENTENTERPRISEEVAL_OEMRET_x64FRE_en-us
    10:36:18 EVAL Hash: 164f022a22d2305e6fbd82f6e35d530b6bbadca8
    10:36:18 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ```
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #8 Enthousiast, Dec 25, 2018
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    The SVF2ISO tool is not yet updated to offer the 1809 Dec. Refresh iso's.

    This is the december refresh (17763.194) iso:

    Code:
    7153e3071366017a24c1fda22c0d1e486dbb0401 *en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1809_updated_dec_2018_x64_dvd_f03937a3.iso
    This is the new baseline (17763.107) VLSC (=MVS) Business iso:

    Code:
    6208b319de3aaf0d8ec5b8d0f710e2744f89d0b4* SW_DVD9_Win_Pro_Ent_Edu_N_10_1809_64-bit_English_MLF_X21-96501.iso
    
    MVS ISO filename:
    6208b319de3aaf0d8ec5b8d0f710e2744f89d0b4 *en_windows_10_business_edition_version_1809_updated_sept_2018_x64_dvd_f0b7dc68.iso
     
  9. joshu

    joshu MDL Junior Member

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    Thank you! When you say "refresh" vs "baseline" is it only the latter that is officially provided by MS?
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    All iso's are still available at MVS iso servers but no info on MVS website for the old baseline 17763.1 anymore.
     
  11. erpsterm35

    erpsterm35 MDL Senior Member

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    because the "old" 17763.1 baseline turned out to be buggy (hence all the problems came up when v1809 was first released in early Oct. 2018) and MS removed references to them and released a "refreshed" one to fix the problems
     
  12. strotee

    strotee MDL Novice

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    I recommended the.1 release since I figured the user was going to use Windows Update to update to the latest CU anyways.
     
  13. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    For clean installs, yes. For upgrades, not so much recommended. The .1 release had the bug that could delete personal files.

    Personally, I'm using 178763.17 ISOs (self-made), it has this error fixed.
     
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  14. ngr.hd

    ngr.hd MDL Novice

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    #14 ngr.hd, Dec 28, 2018
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    If I'm correct:

    Business - VL
    OEM - non-VL
    They both include all flavours of Windows 10 (Home, Pro, Student, N, etc.) Every flavour is available in both x86 as well as x64 architecture.

    Enterprise LTSC - VL
    It is basically Pro but all bloatware UWP programs removed. It is only x64.

    VL stands for Volume Licencing, which you can activate using any KMS tools.

    If you need UWP applications, then use Business edition - Windows 10 Pro.
    If you don't need telemetry services and bloatware/UWP apps that Windows 10 comes loaded with then use Enterprise LTSC.
    They both are VL and easy to activate.

    I'm pretty sure you got confused between Business and Enterprise version. So I've tried to provide the difference in a concise way as possible.
     
  15. Windows_Addict

    Windows_Addict MDL Member

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    Consumer 17763.107

    Core
    CoreN
    CoreSingleLanguage
    Education
    EducationN
    Professional
    ProfessionalN
    ProfessionalEducation
    ProfessionalEducationN
    ProfessionalWorkstation
    ProfessionalWorkstationN

    Business 17763.107

    Education
    EducationN
    Enterprise
    EnterpriseN
    Professional
    ProfessionalN
    ProfessionalEducation
    ProfessionalEducationN
    ProfessionalWorkstation
    ProfessionalWorkstationN
    ServerRdsh
    Its basically Enterprise, not Pro.
    and it comes in both x64 x86

    Business iso's have GVLK inserted and consumer iso have the Retail Product key inserted.
    KMS can activate any windows 10 edition, (VL, Retail, it doesn't matter)
    You can convert your Pro to enterprise Vl by just inserting GVLK, you don't necessarily need Business iso.
    If anyone is pirating then it's better to use Enterprise instead of pro.
    Difference between Enterprise and Enterprise LTSC is that LTSC provides long term service and don't have any feature upgrade and lacks UWP apps, thats all , afaik there is no difference in telemetry.
     
  16. ngr.hd

    ngr.hd MDL Novice

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    Ah I see. If KMS can activate any version of Windows, why should a home user actually worry about getting a gVLK variant?
    As far as I can infer, gVLK variants are beneficial in an organisation which is trying to pirate 100s of Windows installation and activate them at same time using remote KMS?
     
  17. Windows_Addict

    Windows_Addict MDL Member

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    #17 Windows_Addict, Dec 28, 2018
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    Although KMS can activate Home edition only for 30 45 Days but it activates other edition for 180 days.
    If anyone have KMS with renewal task then there is no need to worry.
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    KMS activation needs GVLK (Generic Volume License Key), there is no other way around.
    As I said Converting to VL is only a matter of inserting GVLK.
     
  18. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    Correction: Activation of Windows 10 (Retail) SKUs (Home Single Language, Home Country Specific, Home, Home N) is for 45 days. Only Windows 8.0 had 30 days.
     
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