[Solved] Is it possible to install latest update to edition which has reach end of support ?

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  1. asaltekan

    asaltekan MDL Novice

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    I mean like latest update for Enterprise LTSB 2016 (v1607) installed to Windows 10 Pro RS1 (v1607).
    Is it possible ? If yes, how to do it ?
    Thanks in advance
     
  2. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I don't think you can cross-apply ltsb security updates to a regular pro version.
     
  3. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    Nope, they are not applicable and will refuse to apply.
     
  4. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    #4 xinso, Jul 18, 2018
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    I believe MSMG may be of help to you.

    e.g. Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10586.1540.1.7 on unsupported 10586 Professional:
    Code:
      <assemblyIdentity name="Package_for_RollupFix" version="10586.1540.1.7" language="neutral" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <package identifier="KB4093109" applicabilityEvaluation="deep" releaseType="Security Update" restart="possible">
        <mum2:customInformation Dependency="Language Pack" Version="10.0.10586.1540" xmlns:mum2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3" />
        <parent buildCompare="EQ" integrate="separate" disposition="detect">
          <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EducationEdition" language="neutral" version="10.0.10586.0" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" buildType="release" />
          <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EducationNEdition" language="neutral" version="10.0.10586.0" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" buildType="release" />
          <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EnterpriseEdition" language="neutral" version="10.0.10586.0" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" buildType="release" />
          <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EnterpriseNEdition" language="neutral" version="10.0.10586.0" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" buildType="release" />
        </parent>
    
    
    Code:
    C:\windows\system32>dism /english /image:G: /get-currentedition
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17134.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.10586.1040
    
    Current edition is:
    
    Current Edition : Professional
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    C:\windows\system32>
    
    Code:
    C:\windows\system32>dism /english /image:G: /get-packages
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17134.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.10586.1040
    
    Packages listing:
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-TW~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Language Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:00
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-DiagTrack-Internal-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Feature Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 上午 07:26
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Foundation
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 上午 07:26
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-InternationalFeatures-Taiwan-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:50
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-TW~11.0.10586.0
    State : Not Present
    Release Type : Language Pack
    Install Time :
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-TW~11.0.10586.0
    State : Not Present
    Release Type : Language Pack
    Install Time :
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:00
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Fonts-Hant-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:01
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:01
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:01
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Speech-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:01
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:01
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Prerelease-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-TW~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Language Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:00
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Prerelease-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Feature Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 上午 07:26
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-RetailDemo-OfflineContent-Content-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:05
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-RetailDemo-OfflineContent-Content-zh-tw-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.10586.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : OnDemand Pack
    Install Time : 2015/10/30 下午 07:05
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB3116278~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 上午 11:02
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB3150513~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.6
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB3161102~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.5
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 上午 11:26
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB3172729~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.1
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Security Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB3173428~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB4021702~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.2.4
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB4033631~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.8
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB4035632~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 上午 11:27
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB4051613~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:43
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_KB4134663~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.1.2
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:46
    
    Package Identity : Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10586.1540.1.7
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Security Update
    Install Time : 2018/7/8 下午 12:26
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    C:\windows\system32>
    
    P.S.
    1. 10.0.10586.1040 is Servicing Stack version
    2. 10.0.10586.1540 is the last Cumulative Update version

    But, Microsoft uses different methods for various End-of-Service versions. Tricky.
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Iirc @abbodi1406 was trying to get W10UI_xx to update 1607 non LTSB, i have to search for his posts about it.
     
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  6. MS_User

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    why run a edition with no longer any support...thats how u end up getting hacked:rolleyes:
     
  7. s1ave77

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    Lots of devices do not allow to run newer versions. As long as updates are integrated there's nothing to fear :cool2:.
     
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  8. asaltekan

    asaltekan MDL Novice

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    Glad to hear there is trick to do that. Thanks for all.
    So i can choose use msmg toolkit or w10ui.
     
  9. erpsterm35

    erpsterm35 MDL Addicted

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    this is very true especially for devices using Intel Atom "Clovertrail" CPUs which can only use no higher than 32bit Win10 v1607 - they get updates for 1607 until 2023.

    maybe OP should switch from 1607 Pro to 1607 LTSB in the long run, which I did. the education & enterprise (non-ltsb) editions of win10 1607 get new updates until mid-October 2018.
    slipstreaming/integrating new 1607 updates may work for a while but may no longer work in later years as eventually MS may publish 1607 updates that only support LTSB.
     
  10. halasz

    halasz MDL Member

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    Sorry to state the bleeding obvious but LTSB does have support.

    That is what the first two letters LT (Long Term) mean.

    Would you like so explanation of "SB" or what?

    Perhaps you can explain to someone with a question about Surface Book how you have a completely different machine but you know what a tablet is? Or perhaps how you have an android phone and your knowledge of that will help.

    I'd like to say I don't want to be rude but I do want to be rude.

    This site is full of morons (not everyone of course) but you sir are close to the top of the pile.
     
  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #12 Enthousiast, Jul 25, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2018
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  12. Feniksrising

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    Most people get hacked through social engineering not hackers in basements.
     
  13. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    u forget about malware.
     
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