[Solved] Question about driver integration

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  1. Windows 10 User

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    My PC requires an Intel Rapid Storage Technology F6 driver to be loaded for the Windows 11 installer to recognize the SSD or else I won't be able to install Windows 11 on it.

    If I integrate this driver on a Windows 11 image and use this image on a different PC (which doesn't need this driver) to install Windows 11 will I have any issue?
     
  2. Enthousiast

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    Normally no.
     
  3. Windows 10 User

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    #3 Windows 10 User, Aug 30, 2023
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    Even if the PCs are from different brands and have a big difference regarding the release time?

    I created a Win10XPE Windows 11 image with the Intel RST driver needed by my PC integrated and used it on another PC which doesn't need a driver to be integrated to show its SSD content but it showed this PC's SSD total capacity and free space instead of that PC's and when clicking it, it showed that PC's content and not this one, which I guess might be normal because it thinks it has the same SSD as this one since the driver which was integrated was from this PC.
     
  4. Carlos Detweiller

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    Usually, if the driver isn't required for any drive, it isn't even loaded.
     
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  5. Windows 10 User

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    #5 Windows 10 User, Aug 30, 2023
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    Then what about the other PC's behavior when loading the image created by Win10XPE?
     
  6. acer-5100

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    Don't use that crap.

    Just set your bios in AHCI mode for sata drives and as standard NVME for nvme drives.
     
  7. Windows 10 User

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    Why not?
     
  8. acer-5100

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    Well you already have 50% of the answer. You need to use external drivers even on W11.

    The other 50 is that an install done this way boots only on that specific PC and in very similar ones IF the bios is set to raid mode/rst.

    If your machine dies tomorrow, or if you want to upgrade to an AMD machine (or downgrade to an older Intel one, you are screwed) you need to fresh install or waste hours palying with the registry offline.

    An AHCI or NVME disk boots practically in any machine sold in the last years (15 Years in case of AHCI). In short rst drivers are a solution looking for a problem.

    They may make sense for RAID configurations, but even those are pointless in the days of Drivepool and alike.
     
  9. Windows 10 User

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    #9 Windows 10 User, Aug 30, 2023
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    What do you mean by "done this way"? By integrating the driver or pointing to it instead of changing the BIOS settings? But the maker's site states to use the driver to install Windows 11.
     
  10. acer-5100

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    I think they the rest of the message put the thing in context

    Never use any Intel SW. Unless you're really forced to (like Integrated VGAs), that's the rule.
     
  11. Windows 10 User

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    #11 Windows 10 User, Aug 30, 2023
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    Then what did you mean by needing to use external drivers even on Windows 11? Isn't the Intel Rapid Storage Technology F6 driver an external one?

    So, should I change the BIOS setting instead of always pointing to this driver or integrating it and that way I won't even asked about it by the installer? But previously I was told I shouldn't have problems if integrating it and using it in another PC.
     
  12. raptorddd

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    when i first used a SSD mine would not install wither so changing from SATA to AHCI mode windows will boot.
    do not reset default values because resetting values resets AHCI to sata and you wont be able to boot into windows i had to clean install again...
    unless there is a way to boot if sata or ahci is changed.
     
  13. Windows 10 User

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    I reset the BIOS settings for another reason and I can boot in to Windows and run the Windows 11 installer.
     
  14. Windows 10 User

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    I can't find that setting on my MSI BIOS.
     
  15. Windows 10 User

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    What about Win10XPE? Should I integrate this driver even if using the image in other PCs besides my own?
     
  16. acer-5100

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    If you dont have a choice in the bios (that looks strange, but possible) yes you should, assuming win pe images are useful for anything,

    There sholdn't be any problem in booting in nortmal PCs, the driver isn't loaded if not needed, just like any other scasi/sata/usb driver
     
  17. Windows 10 User

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    #17 Windows 10 User, Aug 31, 2023
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    At least I can't find it but it's confusing for me so I might be searching the wrong way.

    But this driver concerns a NVMe SSD so it doesn't concern SCSI/SATA/USB. Like I stated, I created a Win10XPE Windows 11 image with the Intel RST driver needed by my PC integrated and used it on another PC which doesn't need a driver to be integrated to show its SSD content but it showed this PC's SSD total capacity and free space instead of that PC's and when clicking it, it showed that PC's content and not this one, which I guess might be normal because it thinks it has the same SSD as this one since the driver which was integrated was from this PC. Are you sure I can't have any problem if using this image in another PC which diesn't need this driver?
     
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    #18 acer-5100, Aug 31, 2023
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    This is REALLY strange. Obviously this is not the way it is supposed to work, otherwise winPE would load any NVME/SCSI/USB/IDE driver is integrated in it (they are dozens), a mayonnaise that would lead to BSODs or data corruption with a 100% probability.

    But obviously poorly written/buggy drivers are a thing that can't be ruled out.

    That said you could always leave the f6 drivers in a folder of your PE pendrive, and load them manually. We aren't living in the XP days anymore when you needed an unreliable and slow floppy, here the whole manual process takes a couple of seconds more, so.
     
  19. Windows 10 User

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    I've been doing the latter but I wanted to spare time. Anyway, at least when installing Windows 11 I shouldn't have problems, even if installing it in PCs with a HDD?
     
  20. acer-5100

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    If you want to spare time, just forget winPE, ISOs, setup.exe and whatever.

    Learn to deploy, capture, and possibly learn to use native vhds.

    Just copy one file, issue one command to add the installation to the bootloader and your'e done.

    Why people in 2023 insist to do things like in 1989 is beyond me.