[Solved] Use full ram

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by se7an, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. se7an

    se7an MDL Novice

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    guys i have dell 3558 laptop with intel 5005u cpu and 4gb ram and window 10 32bit , Now i have 2.79 gb of ram usable. i have no dedicated graphics. Is it possible to use full 4 gb ram?. i already used msconfig method , but no use. thanks.
     
  2. Mr.X

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    #2 Mr.X, Jul 6, 2017
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  3. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    no 32 bit can only read 3 gig ram....upgrade to x64
     
  4. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    The OS Kernel needs to be edited and some changes are done on its code. But, if it's be done, it maybe is just short living and would be reversed by the next OS Update! I used that way back on Windows 7 time and had quite some trouble with the ongoing changes of the Kernel by updating Windows. I never tried that later on Windows 8 or 8.1 and Windows 10 again! It's really not worth the trouble the user will face! just change the OS to the 64bit architecture!
     
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  6. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    Some is allocated for the onboard gpu. There is also some memory remapping hence you'll never have 4gb usable.
    I would upgrade to 8GB by adding another 4gb module, replace the hdd for an SSD and install a 64bit OS...
     
  7. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Well, there you go. Bottom line is: install Windows 10 64-bit.
     
  8. LiteOS

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    if u dont want to install 64bit
    search for kernel patch, duno if its exist to win10
     
  9. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Read all posts above yours. We all agree patching is a bad idea.
     
  10. LiteOS

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    what about install win7 / 8 with patch
     
  11. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Maybe you don't get it!
    Even if you use that patch in Windows 7, every upgrade will end up with the need of at least re-patch again! It will be a PIA! With Windows 8.1 that Patch will not work anymore because of major changes in the Kernel, and so with Windows 10!
    Manually editing the Kernel with a HexEditor, will need quite some time and if you not be more than careful, you crash and get it never to work!

    So better keep hands off and forget even think about such changes, except you like to end up in mess, and that you will!
     
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  12. LiteOS

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    #12 LiteOS, Jul 6, 2017
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    So avoid update with new kernl

    Server 2008 32 bit is based on vista kernel but support 8 giga Might be slow without the right drivers
     
  13. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Do you seriously assume this a good recommendation :cool2:?
     
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  14. LiteOS

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    #14 LiteOS, Jul 6, 2017
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    nope but nothing left just to install 64bit
    if this laptop is just for watching movies or Facebook nothing important might be ok to do that
     
  15. quakze

    quakze MDL Novice

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    The Bottom line is: install any Windows 64-bit or LINUX 64-bit or MAC OS 64-bit Version.
     
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    quakze MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the info, registered !
     
  17. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Addicted

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    If your BIOS does not support to change the amount of RAM dedicated to the GPU (UMA), you can not, regardless of Windows. If you install 64-bit, GPU might eat even more, if set to Auto.
     
  18. se7an

    se7an MDL Novice

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    thanks guys i use x64
     
  19. LiteOS

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    #20 LiteOS, Jul 9, 2017
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    i installed to check ,its works great
    did few benchmark with aida64 and "as ssd" on ramdisk
    pretty much high score ,more or less as i7 5820k
    600 threads 10k handlers on startup
    memory startup with 900 go down to 700 i wonder why

    saw 10-20% better performance on 32bit PAE vs server 2016 in aida64

    (In gb)
    35vs30 read
    40vs29 write
    36vs 30 copy
    71.5ns vs 73.5ns latency
    56vs53 cpu queen

    Im wondering how it will do in multitasking
    64bit should really smash 32bit

    8k wouldnt run ,it will try to start the video the cpu usage goes to 100% and just fail and went back to normal

    4k 60fps makes 50% cpu usage on PAE
    4k 20% or less
    using ff and FHD screen