Still no word on next "ltsb"(or whatever they're gonna call it)...???

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Rickkins, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    Waiting semi patiently....

    Thanks.
     
  2. freiwald

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  3. GOD666

    GOD666 MDL Expert

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    #3 GOD666, Aug 7, 2018
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    A good indication of what to expect from LTSC 2018 is to have a look at the current Windows 2019 Server currently in testing, but doing so would not be exact as obviously, the policies are different and so are a few of the system tools. However, generally and loosely speaking, the developments often mirror each other (at least in part). But I digress, as comparing them would not be an exact science (but would be comparable to cousins).

    The only real change I expect in 2018 will be the newer kernel, all previous updates included, and newer hardware support (which you can technically obtain in 2016 through drivers provided by your manufacturer, anyways). The biggest "improvement" will be for those who add the store (which is not officially supported by Microsoft, obviously). Having the new 1803 build (presumably the final build, but that could change), will allow you to install all the games or apps that are currently rejecting the older 1607 build from 2016. -- Beyond that, I don't really expect much of a "change" for 2018's release. LTSC, after all, is meant to be barebones in regards to Windows 10 with long-term support in mind (meaning the fewest stuff included to guarantee the fewest maintenance required in use and in updates).

    Someday in the far-off future (not anytime soon), I do expect Edge to sneak its way into LTSC (officially). This is, of course, assuming Microsoft is serious about killing off Internet Explorer once and for all, but I do not see that happening in this upcoming release.
     
  4. RanCorX2

    RanCorX2 MDL Addicted

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    I doubt they will kill off IE, it's heavily integrated in the OS and lots of apps and installers rely on it (not the actual browser but it's engine)
     
  5. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Senior Member

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    I have a query, does IE11 behaves differently on win 10 compared to win 7/8.1 because I have noticed some major shopping sites in my country not displaying correctly/not showing all options in IE11 on win 7/8.1.
     
  6. RanCorX2

    RanCorX2 MDL Addicted

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    when i've used IE11 some sites say they are dropping support or have dropped support, that might be why, but i've found some sites have always been iffy on IE.
     
  7. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    I use Palemoon, so IE is not very important to me.

    I guess I somehow got into my mind that the release date was August.

    Doy.
     
  8. oilernut

    oilernut MDL Junior Member

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    A lot of business apps integrate with IE11 that are still widely used in business. It's not going away anytime soon.
     
  9. John Sutherland

    John Sutherland MDL Addicted

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    Still trying to figure out why someone would want to install the Windows Store and Edge browser on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB(or C), and make it just like Windows 10 Home or Pro. These are the things I'm trying to get away from. Keep it clean, keep it simple, and let me install the browser and apps that I want to use.
     
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  10. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    For a lot of users it's the support cycle that matters, not the installed Apps :cool2:.
     
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  11. GOD666

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    It is a lot easier to add the stuff you want and a lot more risky to remove the stuff you do not. ;)

    Very well true. I don't need my computer going through a "refresh" every 6 months or so. :D
     
  12. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Member

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    How the hell are developers supposed to keep up when things change every 6 months? :dunno:

    I think thay may be the whole point.
     
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  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Manually by ISO, yes. LTSC/C is not offered on WU as upgrade like the normal non LTSB/C sku's are.
     
  15. erpsterm35

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    which I prefer doing anyway with either LTSB/LTSC & non-LTSB versions of Windows 10. i never install any Win10 feature updates thru WU and always by ISO method
     
  16. PsychedelicShaman

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    Yeah, im in the same boat. I don't understand why anyone would even use Microsoft's built-in UWP bloatware over third party Win32 API programs... For example the "Groove Music" UWP app takes so much time to open it's just ridiculous, i don't understand why anyone would use it over foobar2000, Winamp or AIMP for example. I also wish that Microsoft would bring back the "UseWin32TrayClockExperience" registry tweak to LTSC 1809, so i could bring back the classical Win32 API Calendar from Windows 7 - i wish to replace all Windows 10's UWP GUI assets with Win32 API assets from Windows 7.
     
  17. DavidXanatos

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    How big is the difference between the LTSC and server experience anyways?

    Back in the days I was running server 2003 instead of XP because of the PAE support to be able to use all of my ridiculously overpriced 4 GB of memory.
    I remember after some initial tweaking there was no real difference (except most security applications did not want to install cause: *server* buy the super expensive version that is on no torrent side)
    But all and all it was quite nice as a desktop.

    I checked out the current 2019 preview build and it seams just fine as a desktop OS, much less tweaking needed than with 2003 .

    So I wonder if M$ is boycotting the LTSC channel why not just go all in with using a LTSC server. its not like one could obtain any of those as a private user through the proper channels anyways.

    Cheers
    David X.