take ownership vs enable administrator(Solved)

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  1. bobplop

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  2. T-S

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  3. hb860

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    Windows 10 is known for having side effects after enabling it. For some users, it breaks Edge even under the limited account.
    Never enable it unless you are sure that you really need it.
    Otherwise, avoid enabling it.
     
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    Well it wasn't exactly out-of-the-box,I installed a bunch of things like office etc,and executed most of the anti-spy settings from the o&O program,
    are you saying than out-of-the-box there would be no file permission problems?
     
  5. bobplop

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    so enabling the administrator account would cause problems, so I presume running nsudo would as well?
    (I didn't know about this nsudo, after reading some I believe it is a sort of super administrator account)
    I haven't tried this take ownership thing, if that is a simple solution which works i should be fine,if not, more drastic measures would be necessary probably.
     
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    On a somewhat related note, if you have set up dual booting (or multi booting) and encounter this error while browsing the folders of the other installation(s) from within Windows, be very careful when Windows suggests that you take ownership of that folder permanently. It will give you access all right, but will break your other OS. :mad:
     
  7. T-S

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    Don't use another windows if you want to act from a parallel installation. Use Linux or use the recovery consolle, or use something like the miniXP from Hiren's Boot CD.

    But, as I said, the most practical way is to use nsudo.
     
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    good point, thanks.
     
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  10. LiteOS

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    The fastest way i know is
    run cmd as trusted installer
    and then use icacls to add u or administrators group full access

    its will save u time to take ownership and might save headache if its system file shouldn't be changed
     
  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I still don't get why you would need all these "solutions" for a problem that shouldn't even exist, at least i nowhere in your replies read on what files you get the "acces denied" message.

    If it's on a simple folder containing mp3's it's a real problem, which maybe is caused by (settings from) one or some "extra's" you use, like "mp3bookhelper"?
     
  12. T-S

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    Obviously nsudo is a solution meant to be used when it's needed, if you don't like the permissions just install the system on the fat32 :D
     
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  13. LiteOS

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    better go with exfat :)
     
  14. bobplop

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    it wasn' t only "mp3bookhelper",I can' t remember the exact particulars but there were a number of instances I wasn' t allowed to move the file to another partition nor delete it.
    these where regular partitions, not the system drive.

    I' m going to try some of the solutions given here in the next couple of days when I have some more time.
    thanks for helping out
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    If it's a windows configuration/rights problem the "solutions" won't solve that, it only works around it.

    Is it a fresh single install or dual boot, like someone else also has asked?

    Can you delete/rename/move the files using windows' native explorer?

    What happens when you do it in safe mode?

    What process(es) is(are) using the file when you try to delete/rename/move it?
     
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    I am dual booting Windows 10 and Windows 7. Very often, I download a file in Windows 10 (either to the desktop or to the downloads folder) and then, when I am in Windows 7, I realise that I have forgotten to move the file to a location accessible by Windows 7. Are any of the suggestions above suitable for simply getting the downloaded file from within Windows 7 (and vice versa) without having to reboot into the other OS and move the file to a non-system folder?
     
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    Registry Editor, Selection on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, File/Load Hive

    the explorer windows will be administrative and can access other OS Users directory without messing with permissions

    it's better to copy the file, don't move it