Terrible time with Daz Loader + Bootcamp

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  1. lolpanda

    lolpanda MDL Novice

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    #1 lolpanda, Jul 27, 2011
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    Hi guys! I should start off with, I LOVE daz loader. I used it for 5 of my comps and it worked perfectly.

    but im having a terrible time with the loader and my mac. im trying to install windows via bootcamp. So far i tried 3 times and every time ended up having to delete the partition because i would be stuck with the endless boot loop. I install windows and than choose "activate later." Everything is fine and dandy. I install my boot camp drivers and than i load up daz loader (i'll be honest, it was a 1.X version). I select apple as the manufacturer and than click install. After installing, it'll reboot. I would hold the command key, choose windows, and than a few seconds later BOOM, reboot after reboot.

    im not a computer pro so i didn't want to mess with any command prompts or anything. i just wanted to install the loader and be finished.

    so before i try for the 4th time but with version 2.0.4 now. can anyone point me to a step by step guide on how to install this correct? Im just extremely confused at the options the loader has (for example, why do i need to uninstall than install? what do i fil out under the profile tab? the oem tab? and should i not even bother messing with the advanced options tab?), what the difference between the loader and the wat fix is, etc etc.

    AHHH. any help would be much appreciated :(

    it worked so well with my 08 macbook pro and the other pc's but my 2011 mac is just being a dickhead.

    is it possible to just snag one of the keys from the "key" document and use it to activate/validate/recieve updates? Even if the key belongs to another brand like dell, asus, lg, etc. sorry if that question seems REALLy stupid. haha.
     
  2. x86

    x86 MDL Addicted

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    #2 x86, Jul 27, 2011
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    Hello and Welcome to MDL :)

    Basically, all you need for successfully activating a fresh installation is the Loader itself and the Support Thread for any f.a.q you might come up with (likewise this thread should be opened there).

    Normally you shouldn't have to change much during the Loader installation. In my case I only ever used the Profile tab... If you still have issues, post an MGADiag report in order for other people to be able to help you out. The Loader does work under Bootcamp, so it all comes down to details. Since running under Bootcamp is kind of a special case, if you do a search within MDL using the keywords "bootcamp daz" (without the quotes) you may find some more answers through there. And whatever you do - don't forget to use the latest 2.0.4 version ;)

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  3. Daz

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    As long as it's not 1.5 TB+ you should be fine, otherwise you get dropped into a command prompt window which tells you how to get Windows booting again.

    With the latest version of the loader I would recommend you use the default boot menu (select it and then press install). If you then fail to boot you can try to use the "No SLIC" option.
     
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  4. Jmood

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    Ive download the program 5 times now and each time I see that when I run it a folder is created in appdata/local/temp/temp1_windows loader 2.1 or something like that when I run in my admin account, but when I run as a low level user and use the program it says the program started abnormally still... I am not sure what is up.....
     
  5. Daz

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    The application shouldn't make any temp folders. Have you downloaded it from here?
     
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  6. Jmood

    Jmood MDL Novice

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    Yes, I downloaded the application right from your thread. Do you think the link was changed or the file was switched with an infected one?

    EDIT: Also sorry for bumping this old topic, I thought I was in your help thread....
     
  7. Daz

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    The links right as the download count is normal. Maybe it's due to some kind of software protection you've got installed? I can only take a guess and say its scanning it and removing the UPX packing :g:

    Check the exe MD5 matches b2ed18909c4e6153b5b92afa25858431.
     
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  8. Jmood

    Jmood MDL Novice

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    I have no software that would do such a thing.... Also the MD5 matches.
     
  9. Daz

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    As long as the MD5 matches then you should be fine, but I've no idea why it'd be creating any folders.
     
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  10. Jmood

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    I just tried it and it cannot seem to pass validation....... Ive tried all the methods said yet it still cannot seem to work for me....
     
  11. glenbury

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    Same issue

    I'm having this same issue. I use bootcamp to partition the disc and install Win7, no problems. I use the Daz Bootloader and it hoses the install. Get caught in the command line loop, can't boot with or without SLIC. I think it has to do with the partitions. I saw a post on another board where users had the same problem. One solution was to use Paragon NTFS for OSX and create a folder on the hosed (Windows) partition. Then OSX or Paragon seemed to "fix" it on its own. Might be re-creating the partition map? I've repro'd this 6-7 times now. Install Windows, everything is cool. Install Windows Loader and no joy booting into Windows.Love Windows Loader, great work with it. However, can confirm this is a real issue with Windows Loader and Bootcamp installs.
     
  12. Daz

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    So you used the bootsect command to uninstall the loader, or held 'R' during boot to access the loaders boot menu?

    Are you using version 2.1 of the loader and how big is your hard drive?
     
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  13. glenbury

    glenbury MDL Novice

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    Bootcamp + Windows Loader

    It kicks into the boot menu automatically when I select the Windows partition and won't exit no matter which option I select. I haven't tried uninstalling the loader, I just delete the partition, re-create and install and it'll boot until I install the loader. HDD is 250 GB. There are four partitions, I can send a screenshot of the partition map from Disk Management if you like. Yes, I am using 2.1.

    Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
     
  14. Daz

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    #14 Daz, Jan 1, 2012
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    Using the bootsect command would get Windows booting again without the format, or at least it should.

    I'm still a little puzzled by which menu you're seeing, but if it's the loader menu thats getting displayed then that is a problem and I wouldn't know how to fix it on a Mac. The loader menu is the one that will display an option containing "No SLIC". If this isn't the loaders menu you're seeing then you could try to install the loader with it's boot menu visible. You'd simply need to select the option in the advanced tab before installing the loader.
     
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  15. irhass

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    Hi, Daz ,i indonesian ,sorry for bad english
    I have a Macbook 2,1 ,and i've installed win7 ultimate in the macbook ,and i installed your latest windows loader,but everytime i installed the windows loader the bootloder is error, idid like what on the tutorial,but the window still not licensed and still in trial.

    I am looking forward for your answer and support
     
  16. Bard1004

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    I am also having this issue, except more so. Something went wrong when I initially tried to install & set up the Loader and I could only access Windows by doing the "Boot with out loader" option when pressing Esc and entering the command line. I couldn't figure out how to uninstall the loader so I decided to wipe the partition, merge it with my main partition and try starting from scratch.

    After setting up the partition, however, I can no longer boot into Windows, period. It won't boot from the instalation USB disk I was using, only coming up with "Non-bootable disk" messages. I tried using a different physical USB drive and using a different ISO. So far nothing works. I'm guessing I need to reset the whole thing, but I have no idea how to remove the loader at this point (I can't get into the command line menu that allowed me to boot with out the loader; it won't even go to that stage).

    I have a 2012 Mac Mini Intel Core i7 and OS 10.8.2. Any suggestions that you have would be great. Thanks!
     
  17. Daz

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    #17 Daz, Jan 8, 2013
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    Pressing uninstall in the loader application will fully uninstall the loader. Also if you've deleted the partition then the loaders deleted too, since it's basically a file on the partition just like any other file.

    I don't think a Mac would get the 100MB NTFS system reserved partition, but if you've got one then deleted it. If not then I've no idea what your problem would be because as far as I know Mac keeps the Windows partition totally separate so that it's easily deleted.

    If the loader was lurking on the system then if you boot from your Windows disk and press SHIFT + F10 then you'd get a command prompt window. From there enter bootsect.exe /nt60 sys /force and then the loader will be disabled.
     
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    #18 1432bb, Jan 14, 2013
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    I can confirm that this does fix the boot problem on my MacBook 2,1.
    Is there anything you would like me to try to help diagnose this?

    What I've done so far:
    Installed Intel 60GB SSD
    Installed OSX 10.6.8 (All updates applied)
    Bootcamp Assistant, split drive 50/50
    Installed Win 7 Upgrade 32-bit Retail (No Service Packs)
    Installed Windows Loader

    After the error:
    Ran the above bootsect.exe /nt60 sys /force command to restore booting.
    Tried Windows Loader again.
    Read some of your other threads about forcing a boot but no /bootmgr folder could be found using

    find --set-root /bootmgrFile not found.

    Hope this helps. Not sure what to try next.