Use win 8/10 setup to install win 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by markokk888, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. markokk888

    markokk888 MDL Member

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    Is it possible to use windows 8 or windows 10 setup files to install windows 7 by changing install.wim ?
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yes it can be done.
     
  3. mehdibleu

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    #3 mehdibleu, Jan 16, 2018
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    correct me if i'm wrong but from what i understood , you converted install.wim to install.esd to reduce the size and because win7 does not handle esd files, you thought about transfering your converted install.esd file into win8.1 or win10 iso to be able to install win7, is that what you mean and want to do ?
    if so, yes it is possible to do it as i've already done it by myself and it works perfectly.
     
  4. markokk888

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    well that is a good idea because with all updates and modifications the wim file size is about 6-8GB can't even fit on a standard dvd anymore lol :D
    but the truth is, its not about the size, i just having a big trouble with emmc chip which is not supporting windows 7 and i can't find drivers for it.
    so i'm basically out of ideas thats why i'm just playing around because i almost give up.
    switching install.wim and using 8 setup files did show the emmc disk but thats it no luck further..
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It maybe will fix booting but does it also fix running windows 7 on it?
     
  6. markokk888

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    Well it did go all the way to the drive selection after inserting usb driver's, the original post is here.
    but even after i did all that Win 8 setup with a 7 install.wim file can't install or format the emmc disk no matter what. i did try to manually format the disk using diskpart but no luck.
    windows 7 setup can't even detect the disk.

    The funny part is that i have all the correct drivers to work with windows 7 except emmc disk driver. that thing is really annoys me.
     
  7. shhnedo

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    So now it's time to try the Windows 10 PE. As you may or may not have noticed, the laptop doesn't have drivers for anything older than 10, so you can safely assume windows 8.x ain't gonna do the job. Go grab some windows 10 version 1709 iso and replace the install.wim file with your 7 install file and try again.
    I'm guessing windows 7 itself will also need drivers for the emmc and the other components, so it's probably a good idea to integrate those into the install.wim(dism /add-driver, google it).
     
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    #10 shhnedo, Jan 17, 2018
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    You're trying to install windows on UNALLOCATED SPACE! That's your problem. You don't have a partition to install windows on. Click the "New" button and create a partition. Then make sure it's selected and hit "Next".

    Edit:
    Seems the actual picture with a created partition didn't load last time. I stand corrected.
     
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  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The "next" button should do all for you, it will set the system partitions, here is something else wrong.
    This was with 17074 IP.
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...view-build-17074-pc.76148/page-6#post-1404402

    In this case it probably will be unsupported hardware.

    ps, OP please show the picture of the "details" button in the last screen.
     
  10. markokk888

    markokk888 MDL Member

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    Details button is in the first screenshot.
    Yeah, i know its incompatible hardware. i think that its no way this gonna work.

    I give up. It is how it is.
     
  11. markokk888

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    I tried even to boot live usb with 7 and pe edition. Goes to bsod even on legacy. it is how it is. Very strange truth.
    It seems to crash on disk.sys load. 7 just don't like that integrated emmc.
     
  12. Enthousiast

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    How does it boot an untouched win 10 iso?
     
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    #15 markokk888, Jan 17, 2018
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    Works fine with that i think. Let me just make sure..
     
  14. markokk888

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    Wow i think something is wrong here.. i can't install untouched 10 i get same messages. that is very strange. only the recovery media with oem 10 home works. whats up with this hardware..
     
  15. Enthousiast

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    Spit thru the bios settings and take a good look :) Or take a good look inside the working iso (specially boot.wim and install.wim for 3rd party drivers.
     
  16. markokk888

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    Enthousiast, thanks for your help. i will try to make something happen but i'm washed-out right now, never had so much problems with any hardware in my life. lol :D
     
  17. markokk888

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    I managed to install windows 7 on it somehow. but it crashes when trying to start the os. no matter how i change the bios settings it just doesn't work.
     
  18. mxman2k

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    I had a pc in with a strange problem like your having, would install 7 perfectly on AHCI setting, but Windows 8.x/10 would give a message like yours - it would 'see' the drive but fail to format/create etc. I changed the bios mode to IDE and it then installed 10 with no hassle. Once the OS was installed, i followed a post about changing to AHCI from IDE and so far been no problems.

    Not sure if that would make any difference but worth a try changing to IDE instead of AHCI for a test install of 7?
     
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