Hi I found this forum on google. I installed Windows 7 in 2010 and I used Remove WAT 184.108.40.206 and also the Windows 7 Loader together. This was in 2010 as I stated. I plan on doing a reformat soon. I have not installed any updates since 2010, unless they were software updates or drivers for my own programs. I want to install Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate again but I want to update all the time due to security. Will I be using both WAT and Windows 7 Loader, or only the Loader now?