WAT Remover vs Windows Loader 2012 Win7 64bit Ultimate

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  1. zyzz

    zyzz MDL Novice

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    Hi I found this forum on google. I installed Windows 7 in 2010 and I used Remove WAT 2.2.5.0 and also the Windows 7 Loader together. This was in 2010 as I stated. I plan on doing a reformat soon. I have not installed any updates since 2010, unless they were software updates or drivers for my own programs. I want to install Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate again but I want to update all the time due to security. Will I be using both WAT and Windows 7 Loader, or only the Loader now?
     
  2. sid_16

    sid_16 MDL Giveaway Organiser

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    If I were you , I would reformat and install a clean version of win7 and use only one loader (DAZ's) and download all the updates including kb971033.
    For more information on loader please check these threads.- http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/24901-Windows-Loader-Current-release-information
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    For support see here- http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/24902-Windows-Loader-Support-and-chat
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    For fixing your activation or any other issue relating to activation read here.- http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/26994-WAT-Fix-Fix-your-activation-problems.
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    For question and answers check here.- http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/24900-Common-questions-and-answers.
    By the way ,welcome to this great forums zyzz.:welcomeani:
    and have nice stay thanks,
    sid_16.
     
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  3. CaptainKirk1966

    CaptainKirk1966 Former MDL Guru

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    RemoveWAT is evil. Seriously mucks with important system files. Delete every copy you have, and never use it again.
     
  4. zyzz

    zyzz MDL Novice

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    Well this was in 2010, maybe even 2009. My first and only install of Windows 7. I got the Ultimate 64 bit off rapidshare. Remove WAT did nothing bad to my computer. I haven't had a problem in those 2-3 years so it doesn't seem to bad. Can you explain why it is bad? I used both. Originally my copy was pre-activated, but I installed some update - KB something something and it said windows is not genuine. So I was told to use Remove WAT and the Loader. Both fixed my problem! But I haven't updated since.
     
  5. Monkeymook

    Monkeymook MDL Novice

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    RemoveWAT just disables and removes core components for Windows 7 to activate. They can easily be restored using the same tool, but there's potential for issues with genuine activation down the road. It worked for some people, not so much for others, and ESPECIALLY not for others who install KB971033. That was the activation killer update. Daz's loader is pretty much the universal solution for activation, next to BIOS modding, of course. RemoveWAT was a software-based solution. There are other alternatives that are now proven to be more reliable and safer, but it was an interesting tool for its time.
     
  6. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    #6 Daz, May 6, 2012
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    If you install all updates including the WAT update then the system will go non-genuine due to RemoveWAT. However, with a clean version of Windows installed the loader can activate you and you'll pass all genuine tests :)

    Basically RemoveWAT doesn't remove WAT. It messes up your system files and that makes it harder for the loader to work (or even a BIOS mod) and it becomes a signal for Windows to flag you as non-genuine. That's why the loader will refuse to install if you've installed RemoveWAT first.

    The uninstall function in RemoveWAT was also broke which is one of the reasons I ended up creating WAT Fix.
     
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  7. zyzz

    zyzz MDL Novice

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    So how is Daz's Loaders better? How does it work? I mean you can do all updates, but not have to worry about the genuine message every popping up again?
     
  8. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    The loader executes before Windows does and it injects a SLIC into your ACPI tables which your BIOS loads into memory when you power on your system. From doing that and installing the certificate and serial your system gains activation status under the OEM channel, which is what systems sold in shops use. Them serials can't be blocked and WAT can't do anything about it because no system files get modified :)

    When you use the loader you can install all updates and you won't ever go non-genuine as long as you don't mess around with software like RemoveWAT.
     
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  9. zyzz

    zyzz MDL Novice

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    Well you would have no reason to use RemoveWAT if you use the Loader or am I wrong? When should this loader be used? Right after installing or after that KB whatever update that screwed everything up. Are there any downsides of using this loader?
     
  10. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    It's best to install it right after installing Windows, just so you know it works for you. And no, theres no downsides to using the loader.

    When using the loader you should never install RemoveWAT also because that defeats the purpose of the loader and will make you non-genuine at some point.
     
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  11. madamecupcake

    madamecupcake MDL Novice

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    hello

    daz are you the person who was helping me on facebook ?
     
  12. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    No, I don't use facebook.
     
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  13. zyzz

    zyzz MDL Novice

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    good information Daz. The fact that you can do something like this and still update is amazing.
     
  14. buzkill

    buzkill MDL Novice

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    Well i have windows 7 64 bit build 7601 and on a acer aspire 64 bit machine.Can i and how do i use the loader by daz?
    Confused on slic,oem,certificate.Do i just run loader or do i have to configure it?Thanks.
     
  15. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    Use it's default settings and simply press install :)
     
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  16. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    to emulate slic 2.1 in bios by bootloader, usualy just install and done.

    however its best to do slic bios mod then flash bios with slic 2.1
     
  17. buzkill

    buzkill MDL Novice

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    Well i install the loader by daz and restared and still says not genuine, any ideas?Thanks.
     
  18. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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  19. buzkill

    buzkill MDL Novice

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    Thanks daz,but maybe i need a new version of ultimate?The one im using i got from internet and came pre activated.
    Is there another version on here of ultimate x64 bit that would work for me?I like the ultimate version.
    I have a acer aspire 5742z 64 bit laptop.I had to use chew activator but id rather use your loader.
    I need new win ultimate and one that your loader works with and i dont know if my motherboard is all right for loader.
    Also do i need to verify with microsoft after running loader?Sorry im having prblems getting loader to work.
     
  20. Daz

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