what am i missing?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by hjgiygiuyg, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. hjgiygiuyg

    hjgiygiuyg MDL Novice

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    Hello,

    I have a G31M-ES2L board, I checked to see if it has SLIC 2.1 using RW-everything and found that it is indeed 2.1 and that it is listed as HPQOEM SLIC-MPC. Used 7Loader clicked have slic and installed the certificate that has the exact same name.

    Everything seems ok.

    So what am I missing? What is the point of the mod? I get it if i don't have slic 2.1, but why is this board listed in the mod list (the sticky) and i can see people modding it.

    Is it just luck? Is Microsoft just waiting for 7 to lunch in order to deactivate?

    Thank you
     
  2. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #2 HotCarl, Sep 9, 2009
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    You must have been running the loader while you used RW-everything...7Loader must have installed it, or you tried a different loader previously that installed grub4DOS. The HPQOEM SLIC is from Orbit/Hazars 7loader (or another loader that uses HP SLIC, 7loader being the most common). GRLDR (grub for DOS) loaded the SLIC 2.1 tables up into memory prior to Windows booting... RW-everything is reading the emulated SLIC 2.1 in memory (not your BIOS directly), which was placed there by GRLDR when your PC boots, just prior to Windows loading... I don't know how you could have SLIC 2.1 without the loader because HP SLIC (the exact same kind that 7Loader uses) would not have came preinstalled in your Gigabyte board's BIOS...and you said that you didn't mod your BIOS, so therefore you must have the grub loader installed on your system.
     
  3. Everilda

    Everilda MDL Senior Member

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    I think RW Everything is showing the slic table from 7loader which is loaded into memory.
    Standard Gigabyte motherboards do not have Slic in the bios unless someone has modified it.
     
  4. hjgiygiuyg

    hjgiygiuyg MDL Novice

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    you mean i installed the loader which has the emulation and that's what i'm reading?

    and if so then why did clicking uninstall inside the loader not remove the loader?
    and how can i remove it completely? (manually that is)

    i just checked another computer (ep45-ds3l board) where i installed the modded bios after the loader (and then removed and installed the slic certificate) hpqm is nowhere to be found so i'm assuming the uninstall feature in the loader works.

    thanks
     
  5. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #5 HotCarl, Sep 9, 2009
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    You must have, or else you would have no SLIC 2.1 my friend...don't assume anything with loaders. ;) You can remove it, but then you will not be able to activate Windows 7 unless you mod your BIOS or buy Windows 7...

    Anyway, to remove it manually, open Windows Explorer (to view the files & folders on your PC) then press the Alt key. Select the "Tools" menu and click "Folder Options".
    Under folder options, select the "View" tab and enable "Show hidden files, folders and drives" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (recommended)".
    Now you should be able to navigate to the root of your windows drive (ex.: C:\) and see a file named GRLDR there. Delete it.

    Note that just deleting GRLDR will leave your PC unable to boot Windows 7, to remedy this you must do the following...

    Now open an elevated cmd console session by clicking Start, then in the Run/Search bar, type "cmd" (no quotes). When "cmd.exe" appears above as a result, right click on it and select "Run as Administrator".
    When the console window opens, type the following in (one command at a time), followed by pressing the Enter key.

    Code:
    bootrec.exe /fixmbr
    bootrec.exe /fixboot
    
    If the bootrec commands do not work for you, you can also try "Bootsect.exe /nt60 C:" where "C" is your Windows 7 drive...
     
  6. hjgiygiuyg

    hjgiygiuyg MDL Novice

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    you were correct! thanks!

    that explains it.

    anyway while i have you attention i might as well...

    before i install the modded bios what exactly is the advantage of the modded bios over the emulator the 7Loader uses?

    thank you very much anyway!
     
  7. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #7 HotCarl, Sep 9, 2009
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    The advantage of a BIOS mod over a loader is that Microsoft cannot disable the BIOS mod method without also disabling all OEM PC's. There is no way for Windows to tell the difference between a PC with a modded BIOS and a legit OEM PC sold with Windows 7 pre-installed. With a loader, however, all you need to do is remove the GRLDR file and *poof* no more loader/activation. Now, Microsoft may or may not do this, it is at their discretion whether or not they combat the grldr approach ...but it is possible (although there are legit reasons why an individual would have the GRLDR file in the root of their Windows drive, so just having the GRLDR file there is not necessarily a sign to Microsoft that a loader is being used).

    BIOS mod is the best way to go, you just run the risk of bricking your motherboard if the flash goes wrong (if that happens, you may have to take your PC to a PC repair shop). If you are fairly comfortable with DOS (the command prompt) I recommend booting your PC into DOS before flashing (via a USB boot disk). You can flash from Windows but it is a little riskier in my experience, from what I have seen.

    Just FYI, I use a loader (one that I installed manually myself) on this PC and have been using it for over a month now with great results. I have previously used Vista with a loader as well with no problems. ;)
     
  8. hjgiygiuyg

    hjgiygiuyg MDL Novice

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    modded and everything works :)
    slic reports dell and everything is ok.

    thank you very much
    (and there is something to be said about the risks as i am not going not mod my laptop and see where the loader takes me...)
     
  9. HotCarl

    HotCarl MDL Addicted

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    #9 HotCarl, Sep 9, 2009
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    Right on, that was quick. :D

    Glad you had a successful mod. That is the best way to go as you will not have to worry about your PC becoming deactivated somewhere down the road (unless MS blacklists the key you used, in which case Windows will still be activated, just "not genuine", so you will just have to install a newer SLP key :)). Loaders are pretty decent alternatives though...as I said, been using them for a while and had hardly any problems, at least not anything so major that installing a newer loader did not solve. ;)