What can we do to quit microsoft forcing this NSA stuff secure boot

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  1. nexus76

    nexus76 MDL Addicted

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    #1 nexus76, Mar 30, 2015
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    As we already learned secure boot doesn't prevent a microsoft operating system from rootkit- or
    virus-infections. It's clearly a NSA development > https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/HAP_DS.pdf
    However the 'trusted boot' can be abused for tracking by unique signatures or spoofing fake security enviroments.
    Forcing windows 10 upgraders to have secure boot enabled also causes a lock-out of windows 7 as secondary OS
    and some other OS options as unix and linux most likely:
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901...-boot-screws-where-does-that-leave-linux.html

    Any ideas for efforts to make them (MS) quit this sh!t?
    We should not accept secure boot as a mandatory requirement!
     
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  2. kelorgo

    kelorgo MDL Addicted

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    Microsoft isn't forcing anything for upgraders, as of yet. You are probably confusing things with the Windows 10 Logo requirements for OEMs.
     
  3. nexus76

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    #3 nexus76, Mar 30, 2015
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    you say it's still optional? I have a bad feeling for having an UEFI-need this time.
    Or is the BIOS/CSM boot process still supported?

    you can clearly find what's their plans for windows 10 here:

    http://hexus.net/tech/news/software/81790-windows-10-desktop-mobile-minimum-hardware-spec-revealed/

    and it's stated for windows 10 desktop devices

    "Devices must use the UEFI 2.3.1 firmware interface and a Trusted Platform Module (TPM)."

    Actually I thought about it cause I just updated a Medion Akoya P6812 (2011) of a friend to Windows 10 and it
    doesn't rather have UEFI nor secure boot, so it won't be an option to upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10 in this case.

    From my perspective there's not one single reason for an UEFI or secure boot/TPM must-have in any case.
    Much more my recommendation was to create another windows edition beneath
    windows 10, windows 10 pro, windows 10 enterprise and windows 10 education,
    in fact a military class windows 10 NSA edition if it doesn't already exist, but regular users are not guarded by
    this TPM stuff, I removed CTB-cryptolocker infections even from PCs with secure boot enabled several times.

    I just say superfish with secure boot enabled ;) wow
     
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  4. Shenj

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    If you don't understand what Secure Boot even is or does why are you complaining... please read up about it first.
     
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