What is the next era ? Totalitarianism or One Nation Vision ?

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  1. LiteOS

    LiteOS MDL Expert

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    #1 LiteOS, Nov 5, 2015
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism


    are our globe going toward totalitarianism ?
    governments using corporation to gain control over most of monetary system ?
    also applying new rules by destabilize our globe peace ?
    making the mess media change our mindset ? using fear and sex to engage our immorality / beast-nature ?

    what your thoughts

    Edit:

    http://www.techspot.com/news/63292-tech-companies-face-criminal-charges-if-they-notify.html
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...ments-try-to-hack-their-accounts-498288.shtml
     
  2. gorski

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    #2 gorski, Nov 6, 2015
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    It's the other way round: "The Feds" is a private corporation, using a Gov to... blah-blah...:beee:

    Check it out on the internet :biggrin: - but try good, critically minded sources...;)



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  3. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    All "national" banks are private owned. The first one was the bank of England. The rest were build in the same image.
     
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  4. LiteOS

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    the gov made those "private" corporation work for them
    by creating economic collapse and sell those resource to private corporation that gov have control on them
     
  5. R29k

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    While the stupid people who put the government in there sit around watching like spectators at a match.
     
  6. magdalene

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    Welcome to the enlightened part of humanity. You've got it.
    Start by looking at what's really happening in the USA and how your media is dumbing you down and pulling the wool over your eyes, in a much subtler and more devious way than Goebbels ever managed.
     
  7. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    The stupid people put nothing. The stupid people just have the illusion of election...
     
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  8. ausernamenoonehas

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    #8 ausernamenoonehas, Nov 8, 2015
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    This was filmed in 1984. A Soviet KGB defector trying his best to warn America. If you ever watch anything, please watch this. Especially when you consider this was filmed way back in 1984, and what's happening today in America/World.



    And here is the full hour and a half version.



    I truly hope people watch at least the first clip and realise what's happening today.
     
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  9. zen45

    zen45 MDL Senior Member

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    you have an allusion of voting between 4-8 different people but the same money is backing them the only thing different this year is trump I think he is a wild card ! he was allowed to run by the money people thinking he didn't have a chance to win because he was radical in his choices on issues !
    I think it was some ware between the 1980's and 90's where we started loosing our real choices on elections !
     
  10. magdalene

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    Please summarise what the message of the video is, and what point you are trying to make.
    I can't stand when people provide video links without explaining what it's about.

    As a general point: Ex-KGB people who are making a good living by being sock puppets on US TV, are a dime a dozen.... I wouldn't pay much attention to anything they say. People who defected from either side back then, had usually screwed up their lives and needed to clear out. They then justified it by claiming it was ideological.
    Somebody who defects from a country to another is essentially a traitor and known to say whatever they need to say, to get on in the new country. Back then it was:

    "USSR evil hell on earth, behind anything bad that happens. USA paradise country of liberty and freedom and source of everything good on this planet. Hallelujah!"

    Ask a Russian who remembers socialism before things went haywire in the late 1980s. That's not how they remember it at all. Quite the opposite. Most seem to miss the USSR and really regret that they allowed it to go to heck.

    Today the above narrative has been resurrected. USA line remains the same, while for Russia it is

    "Putin, evil dictator who invades innocent countries and persecutes gay people" (neither claim is actually true if you care to investigate)

    To counter the fact that at least 75% of Russians essentially support Putin, the response is

    "They have been brainwashed by Putins propaganda!"
    (well, in that case I'd say the same for Americans who support US wars and invasions - brainwashed by corporate media).

    Plus in reality Russians have much better access to alternative narratives than Americans and Europeans. They tend to be more suspicious against leaders and are generally better read. So who is really brainwashed?

    And when people bash Putin, they should remember that the only realistic opposition to his ruling party, are the Communists. Russia is essentially a two-party state with United Russia (Putin's party) and the Communists as the equivalent to Rep/Dem or Con/Lab. The other parties are insignificant in size and/or Western funded fake opposition that hold no interest for normal Russian voters.

    The real reason for the hate-feast against Russia in media nowadays, is a frustration in the West that Russia is no longer open for plundering, in co-operation with oligarchs and corrupt officials.

    Not saying that modern Russia or the USSR are/were a model state in any way. Just wanting to give anyone interested an alternative view on things.

    And re the Georgia/South Ossetia conflict, check the facts - even the EU supports Russia's position on that now.
    Re East Ukraine. Needless to say; if Russia really wanted this area, they would have taken it in 2-3 days. Russia doesn't want it. The conflict is driven by locals for some reasons that are too complex to explain here. Russia's support doesn't go any further than media support and private people making donations.
    Re Crimea: Russia acted opportunistically to grab Crimea from Ukraine, however they had the backing of almost all the Crimeans, so that's a matter of how you look at international law. Does an area have the right to decide which country it should belong to?

    If you still want to hate Russia, here are the real and justified reasons to hate it:
    Corruption still widespread.
    Free healthcare is much worse than it was in Soviet days.
    Disgusting wealth of oligarchs while pensioners who worked all their lives are just about keeping their heads above water.
    It's taking too long to clean up pollution
    Neglect of rural areas


    ------------end rant------------------------
     
  11. ausernamenoonehas

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    Wow, just wow. :confused:
     
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  12. ausernamenoonehas

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    #12 ausernamenoonehas, Nov 9, 2015
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    Anyway, that video is of such importance here's the link for those who missed it:



    As for the rant on the previous page, meh, commie/socialist brainwashed propaganda doesn't cut it sorry.

    I just like exposing a mental illness that is spreading around the world at an alarming rate called socialism (in all its evil guises) and hopefully wake some people up along the way.

    Oh and for the record, I am neither left or right. I am a monarchist, I await a coming King :biggrin:
     
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  13. gorski

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    One sentence from you and I smell you have "eaten" from the worst Human garbage dump imaginable... :tasty::rolleyes::p:biggrin::D
     
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  14. ausernamenoonehas

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    #14 ausernamenoonehas, Nov 9, 2015
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    Learn something.

     
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  15. gorski

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    Mad mushrooms again, eh? :D :D :D
     
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  16. gorski

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    Oh, really?!? Well, here's a few examples that might test your little theory...:rolleyes:

    Dictatorship in Bolivia was apparent when completely corrupt US Corporations took over water and other resources. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Cochabamba_protests and weep - or cheer, if you're more like me... :D The people got up and threw them over, kicked them out and got their resources back for a fair price! That was REAL DICK-TATORSHIP! :D And it was kicked there where it really hurts!

    Other dick-tatorships in the region came from the US (Chile, Brazil, Argentina etc.): http://www.zompist.com/latam.html or http://www.yachana.org/teaching/resources/interventions.html - weep some more...

    Even today, they are still trying: http://www.telesurtv.net/english/analysis/Whos-Behind-Sundays-Marches-in-Brazil--20150814-0019.html

    http://www.salon.com/2011/10/03/koch_bloomberg/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Brothers_Exposed_(film)

    That's reality, hyranik. Our reality! Whereas, you are from another planet, I fear...:rolleyes::p:D
     
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  17. +X^N

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    I agree with the person who asked you to summarize the video ;
    I can read very fast and generally do not want to spend time watching a video.
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    Please post your own synopsis for us to determine if we want to spend our time watching a video.
     
  18. Tarwin

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    Whatever the case, the little guy is without power. Real revolutions become harder the more we are dependent on the technology/infrastructure, though not impossible. It also depends on which country. Personally, all those series/movies in which corporations rule the world never seemed too far-fetched.
     
  19. gorski

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    The 'little people' have a greater chance of organising now, with new technologies... as seen already!
     
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