What Is The Oldest Windows 10 Release You Can Run Without It Forcing You To Upgrade To A Newer One?

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  1. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    I decided to play with 1703 Enterprise and to stay with it for a while...
    However as soon as I ran Windows Update... It shoved 20H2 into the machine.

    So what is the oldest Windows 10 release (Regular Enterprise, not LTSC), which will not force me to upgrade to a newer release?

    Is 1809 a good one?
     
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  2. acer-5100

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    Given there are no more updates for it there is no point in running WU, just disable it if you want to stay on 1703 (assuming you understand real and supposed security risks of doing that)

    Then LTSB 2015 (1507) is supported until 2025

    LTSB 2016 (1607) is supported until 2026

    LTSB 2019 (1809) is supported until 2029

    LTSB 2022 (21H2) will be supported until 2027 or 2028 , depending on the official release date.
     
  3. Enthousiast

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    Never a good advise to run an unsupported OS.
     
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    #5 acer-5100, Jul 12, 2021
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    That's a matter of opinions user's skill and machine environment and usage.

    For example people connected via 3/4/5 G network are usually behind a giant natted network, they can run XP Sp0 safely if they want.

    Run the same XP SP0 with a public/fixed IP and you will be infected in 10 seconds, no action required.

    In short is always best to use some skill and common sense than parrot the same stereotypes.
     
  5. Enthousiast

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    And still possible vulnerabilities will never be fixed and will always be a risk.
     
  6. PolidelticusFire

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    Hmmm. I do have a HWID for LTSB 2016...
     
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  7. acer-5100

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    That's I wrote "If you understand the risk supposed or real of doing that", I didn't suggest to follow that path blindly, as I have no idea of the skill of the OP.
     
  8. Enthousiast

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    You can have a HWID for ALL business, consumer and Enterprise 2015/2016/2019 LTSB/C SKUs.
     
  9. acer-5100

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    Personally I think 2016 is the best option for most users, as it is a good balance of new W10 features and backward compatibility.

    Unless you need some specific features like WSL2 or new style deduplication, go for it.
     
  10. PolidelticusFire

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    I thought LTSB 2015 and 2016 where the only ones which supported HWID.
    2019 too?
     
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  11. Enthousiast

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    For quite a while now, yes.
     
  12. acer-5100

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    Older tools supported just 2015/2016, but even those tools had the option to get the 2038 KMS activation for 2019 and servers, which should be enough for everyone
     
  13. PolidelticusFire

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    Using the same tools? Wow going to get my HWID for LTSC 2019 ASAP then.
     
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  14. Enthousiast

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    Google for massgravel on github and you will find MAS by @Windows_Addict
     
  15. PolidelticusFire

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    @Enthousiast Are these LTSB/C builds basically client compiles of Server 2016 and 2019? They sure look like it.
     
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    Look it as you like, you can say safely the opposite... Server 2016/2019 are the server version of LTSB/LTSC.

    In short it's windows, few changes on the product policy and some added/removed packages makes the difference.

    What matters is that both servers and LTSx versions lacks most of the cruft added to Home/Pro and so on.
     
  17. Dude Guyman

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    I'd still be running that, except Nvidia (at M$ request, I'm sure) has "blocked" their drivers from installing on it for my GTX 1660 Super :mad:
     
  18. How can someone google something on something other than google :confused:
     
  19. acer-5100

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    Never bothered to buy a Green VGA, but usually is matter of few changes on the inf.

    For example the machine I use as Home Server has a (intel) NIC which is not installable on win server (no mater which version), but works perfectly on any other Windows from XP to win 11,
    I changed the inf in 30 sec

    More or less the same is true for some older Intel VGA, which are not installable on Win10, although the drivers for W81 are available and perfectly compatible


    I would upgrade only for major reasons not stupid blocks on infs. Say VMware 15.5/16 requires at least 20H1 to run side by side with Hyper-V that a kernel change not a comma added to a text file.