Where is the 8 to 10 product key after a upgrade?

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  1. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    Just updated an old Windows pro machine from 8 to 10 which shows as activated but i can't find the product key to use with a ISO install?

    Tried tools like jellybean, showkey and even VBS scripts but they don't show anything or it just shows bbbb-bbbb as the key?

    The machine uses legacy bios so i can't get it from UEFI.
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  3. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks Enthousiast

    I'll try it over the weekend and report back as i've unplugged the machine at the moment as i had enough.

    The original 8 key was a MAK key.

     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Then i can't predict the outcome on 10, i never (needed to) use(d) MAKs ever.

    But like to know what the QT will report (don't post the key itself but i'd like to know if the QT reports the used key).
     
  5. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    MAKs are generally not stored to the Registry.

    Other keys can be removed with:
    Code:
    slmgr.vbs /cpky
     
  6. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    If you perform a clean install of Win10 it should now activate with the generic default key. From the admin cmd prompt you can see some details of your current key with "slmgr /dli" or "slmgr /dlv"...
     
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  7. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    If you really want to know the key that is stored on your computer, use yamicsoft Windows 10 Manager => System Information, for example, but you can also find it in encrypted form in the registry.
    Code:
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ => right panel => DigitalProductId
    To see this for real, you can use the following .vbs script but remember, it is a generic key and cannot be used to activate Windows. However, all users of the same version will find the same key on their computer after the actual activation, if was activated electronically or after using any genuine Windows 7, 8, 8.1 key.

    Code:
    Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
    MsgBox ConvertToKey(WshShell.RegRead("HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\DigitalProductId"))
    Function ConvertToKey(Key)
    Const KeyOffset = 52
    i = 28
    Chars = "BCDFGHJKMPQRTVWXY2346789"
    Do
    Cur = 0
    x = 14
    Do
    Cur = Cur * 256
    Cur = Key(x + KeyOffset) + Cur
    Key(x + KeyOffset) = (Cur \ 24) And 255
    Cur = Cur Mod 24
    x = x -1
    Loop While x >= 0
    i = i -1
    KeyOutput = Mid(Chars, Cur + 1, 1) & KeyOutput
    If (((29 - i) Mod 6) = 0) And (i <> -1) Then
    i = i -1
    KeyOutput = "-" & KeyOutput
    End If
    Loop While i >= 0
    ConvertToKey = KeyOutput
    End Function
     
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  8. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks.

    It just says activated Volume MAK key and a few digits of a key

    Code:
    License Status Reason      : This computer has a valid Digital/Store License.
    Windows VL Key Management  : MAK {PKC}
    Activation Interval Time   : 0 days / 120 minutes
    Renewal Interval Time      : 7 days / 10080 minutes
    That's all it says , no key is shown.
     
  9. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    @ kaljukas

    I've tried multiple VB scripts including ones for powershell and it either doesn't show anything or it just shows the key as load of bbbbb-bbbbb-bbbbb
     
  10. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    For me your situation a little confusing.
    At first, you said you upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 10 and said that Windows 10 was activated.
    However, nowhere have you told me how Windows 8 was activated and what activation method was used there.
    If you use MAK or KMS, my suggested .vbs and other methods won't show anything. They only work if your Windows 8 was OEM or Retail and now Windows 10 is activated with a digital license. That is, you will see the message "Windows is activated with a digital license linked to your Microsoft account".
    (Settings => Update and Security => Activation)
    So, how Your Windows 8 was activated and how Your current Windows 10 have been activated?
     
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  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yeah MAKs aren't shown in the QT, there should be some more info in the report, under the stuff you published, thanks for testing:)

    Your system has a HWID based on the MAK.
     
  12. Tiger-1

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  13. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    Windows 8 pro activated years ago with a VL MAK key , i went to widows 10 website and ran the media creation tool and done a clean install upgrade.

    Code:
    Detected .Net Version{s}   : v1.1.4322, v2.0.50727, v4.0.30319, v4.8 or later {Rev: 528372}
    Powershell Version{s}      : 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 5.1
    Current .Theme Detected    : aero.theme
    Wifi Adapter Status        : Not detected or the adapter's driver is not installed/operational..
    Licensing Channel {RCode}  : VL_MAK - {0x4004F401}  
    License Status Reason      : This computer has a valid Digital/Store License.
    Windows VL Key Management  : MAK {PKC}
    Activation Interval Time   : 0 days / 120 minutes
    Renewal Interval Time      : 7 days / 10080 minutes
      ==============================================[ Office Licensing Information ]==============================================  
    Microsoft Office           : Does not appear to be installed.
      ======================================================[ Miscellaneous ]=====================================================
    Detected Security Name{s}  : Windows Defender [Ref:W]
    WinDefender Service State  : Running/Enabled {Reg:0x2 Auto}
    Defender's Tamper Status   : Disabled
    Windows Firewall State     : Running {Reg:0x2 Auto}
      ==========================================[ Query Tool v114.0 - Report Completed ]==========================================
     
  14. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    #15 sebus, Apr 17, 2021
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2021
    MAK key is NEVER EVER stored on local machine in any form or shape
     
  15. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    Well the Product Key program discovers not only the Windows activation code but also Internet Explorer (if it is installed of course) in this way the choice is yours naturally :)
     
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  16. If you have a legit MAK key,you should be able to visit the VLSC to get your key.
     
  17. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    I'm not going to waste any more time on this as Win 10 is better than 8 but i still prefer Linux.

    Thanks all for trying to help.
     
  18. taylorlawson

    taylorlawson MDL Junior Member

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    I missed this post yesterday , I'm guessing you never thought it through on how large companies deploy 1000's of machines? :)