Why a new Thread get censored before shown on public?

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by pisthai, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    I'm a bit frustrated and seek an answer why:
    • A new thread I wrote isn't displayed directly but get censored before shown to public?"

    I'm quite a long time member of MDL with 264 post and could not create a new topic in Windows 8?

    What for a "game" is that? I'm Global Mod with Admin Rights an an huge Android forum know how to be bound to the rules.

    Thanks for an detailed answer.
     
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  2. Yen

    Yen Admin
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    The short answer is: Because we, the MDL team has decided to do so.

    Are you running vbulletin as well?
    Vbulletin has the option to enable a moderation queue. This will set each thread made by ANY member at the w8 section to 'moderated'. This means they need to be approved by a MDL team member.
    This option cannot be contoled relative to one's postcount, but relative to one's usergroup. It applies to each registered user.

    When being a moderator with admin rights, then you know that each forum has its OWN made rules.
    One of the rules almost each forum has is the rule that posts can be deleted.
    It's basically not different to the queue....

    It is actually a sort of censorship, yes. But as leader of a forum one needs to rule it. It's the same as a 'house-right'.

    A house owner has the right to ask a person to leave it for personal reasons. So we have the right to delete and even to ban members.


    I am not quite satisfied with the queue though, I actually stand for freedom of speech. But the massive threads about the same matters again and again forced us to apply that queue.

    But we don't want to have it enabled permanently.

    I hope I could answer your question. :)
     
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  3. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    As it seems to be that you guy's didn't mind about trolls and accept also rasistic comments, it's a bit out of line for to censor new threads.

    Sorry for to tell that, I'll spend from now more time on other things outsite of MDL because of the freedom of speech.

    On our Android Forum with 150k members after 2 years, we handle such things easy without to limit our members after they reaching the postcount we had set to an very low level. Unlike MDL we didn't accept trolling and rassistic comments and such threads and post's will be delete directly and those members get warned. That works very well and our forum is very clean and quiet compare with others. And we having much less active staff compare to MDL.
    In that regard, your comment about WHY, I could hardly accept to be true. That judgement is also based on comment and post's from other members, special in the Windows 8 Sub-Forum, who asked many time for to close some threads because of trolling, bad comments and so on, which were totally ignored by MDL Staff.

    Thanks for open my eye's an have a nice Weekend.
     
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  4. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    As the saying goes "Prevention is better than cure", I think MDL got it right with the Win 8 forums.
     
  5. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Seems to be that MDL is not censoring only even ignoring.

    Since I posted the new Thread at Windows 8 Forum several hour's before the initial post at this thread yesterday 9:44pm That Thread is still not to see everywhere!

    It couldn't be lack of Moderators/Staff for to approve the new thread because a lot Staff is online the whole time since yesterday! It could be a problem of Censor because it has nothing on that thread which were against the Rules of MDL! So, it could be just pure ignorance! Isn't it?

    OK MDL go ahead and let Troll's trolling, and racist spread rassistic messages etc. etc.!
     
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  6. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    That Threade is also NOT in the activity list of My Settings! Wired!
     
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  7. urie

    urie Moderator
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    Yes it could be lack of staff as you put it but remember we are all volunteers so do not try to tell us how to Moderate and enough of the smart comments
    I have just approved Free-and-fully-Windows-8-32bit-amp-64bit-compatible-Applications
     
  8. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Sorry, it's not any fun for to work with you guy's under such circumstances! I could spend my time and effort much better on other places!

    Bye.
     
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  9. QuantumBug

    QuantumBug MDL Developer

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    #9 QuantumBug, Sep 14, 2012
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    Jheez how immature. All of this over simple thread moderation...

    Thread moderation and queing is here for a good reason, it eliminates double posts, spam, etc. At the end of the day if you don't want to be here that's your choice, no one ever forced you to stay, but don't make out staff to be idiots because they're not, you're just ignorent to the fact of rules and regulations.
     
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  10. xpvista7ubuntu

    xpvista7ubuntu MDL Junior Member

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    over here the janitors clean up even before you make a mess!!!

    >>>>prevention is better than cure<<<< :D

    so you take the shots before you are diagnosed with the disease...wow!!!:eek:

    m.d.l. = my digital libya
     
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  11. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    So what is inoculation ? :rolleyes:
     
  12. dareckibmw

    dareckibmw MDL Expert

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    What is wrong with those kids nowadays? they are so demanding! :eek:
     
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  13. xpvista7ubuntu

    xpvista7ubuntu MDL Junior Member

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    inoculation is done to stimulate disease resistance against KNOWN threats!!!

    you do not put each & every bacteria under the microscope!!!
     
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  14. Myrrh

    Myrrh MDL Expert

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    Nice behavior would be nice.

    I too am frustrated that a post I made in the Windows 8 forum hasn't shown up yet, but I understand the reasoning for the queue. No worries, hopefully somebody will get to it soon enough.
     
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  15. Yen

    Yen Admin
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    How would you react at your forums when somebody is complying and does not evaluate YOUR reasons why you have enabled the queue? :rolleyes:
     
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  16. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    We do practise Freedom of Speech in our forum!

    Only restriction are:
    • Spam
    • Scam
    • 3 post count for Newbies
    • Trolling
    • Rasistic Post's
    • Porno
    • Flame and attacks

    From the all above, only the post's of newbies will be checked for Spam/Scam for the first 3 post's within a very short time after posting. And our active Moderating Team is just up to 5 Mods and Admins!

    By about every day app. 200 new Members, with now nearly 150,000 Members after 2 years, we still can run the whole forum very democratic (and will do so even if we're reaching 500k or 1m members!) with no need to set an whole community in some parts of the forum on the Waiting List of our Staff!! That's just crazy!

    Sorry that I've an different view than you! I was thinking that we're living in an democratic part of the world which seems to be wrong!
     
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  17. urie

    urie Moderator
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    @ pisthai,
    Admin and Moderators all come from different parts of the world :) As for post count for Newbies you have been here long enough to remember what it was like before the post restrictions, board was continually Spammed :(
     
  18. BobSheep

    BobSheep MDL Guru

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    Yes. When I was a kid all I had to play with was "outside". Now they have everything and do not know the value of what they have.
    Roll on the next ice age. That'll sort the wheat from the chaf. What will they do then to keep warm? Rub 2 Gameboys together?

    Does anybody remember this?

    "Ask don't get. Don't ask, don't want"

    :p
     
  19. urie

    urie Moderator
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    I remember when there was only two TV channels and only really got to watch on Sunday night :D. Also was hardly ever in the house you were sent outside to play and had to make your own entertainment o_O
     
  20. dareckibmw

    dareckibmw MDL Expert

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