Why validate Windows 7?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by ms, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. ms

    ms MDL Novice

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    FreeStyler posted in his thread "Not-genuine-after-KB971033-update-Read-this!" that once Windows 7 is activated, it is important to validate online.

    Why is it important to validate online and not just ignore KB971033 altogether? Once validated online (I presume his link to Microsoft installs KB971033), doesn't that set up Microsoft to be re-checking your computer for the next 90 days?

    Are there benefits here I am missing?
     
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    ms MDL Novice

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    Looks like there was another thread titled "Why is it important to Validate online?" which gives the answer that if I am validated and have never been flagged, then there is no reason to do this.

    If I am mistaken let me know... Awesome site.
     
  3. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Basically you partially answered your questions,

    1. You need to validate online 'after' being flagged as non-genuine and fixing your system as described in "Not-genuine-after-KB971033-update-Read-this!"
    2. You need to have KB971033 installed to be able to download programs that require the validation control to be installed from MS download center.
     
  4. x86

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    #4 x86, Aug 4, 2011
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    I was just curious; isn't there a way of combining the two i.e. having KB971033 installed and be genuine & prevent the service from calling home - ever (not even after the default 90-day interval) :confused:

    I came across this (very) useful collection of WAT-related CMD commands - some of which allow having that flexibility. So what if he chose to install/integrate KB971033 in his image, then validate online -> genuine and then just run:

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    schtasks /change /disable /tn "\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Activation Technologies\ValidationTask"
    schtasks /change /disable /tn "\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Activation Technologies\ValidationTaskDeadline"
    Wouldn't that prevent WatAdminSvc from calling home permanently and at the same time keeping the option of getting stuff (that require validation) directly from MS? Or is there anything that could bring the service back to life? For example, would a sfc /scannow restore / re-enable the service?

    I was just thinking that maybe, it would be a good idea to have KB971033 installed in first place i.e. when using the Loader. You can then install the Loader safely. Otherwise you might be in a constant danger of the KB971033 being installed by 'accident' and potentially messing up with the Loader. I know that re-applying the Loader fixes the issue, but why have to through all that? Just install the update and disable ValidationTask & ValidationTaskDeadline...

    Don't you guys agree - or is it something that I am missing here :confused:
     
  5. x86

    x86 MDL Addicted

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    I was under the impression that by just disabling ValidationTask & ValidationTaskDeadline does not affect your ability of still being capable of grabbing stuff the require validation directly from MS. I mean, those two commands simply disable the calling home task itself (i.e. removing it from schedule); you can still validate on demand / manually even with those two disabled :confused:

    It won't restore it; it was a silly comment I made in first place. That would restore only corrupted / modified files :eek: