Whenever i go to Microsofts site to get the standalone debugger tools i get redirected to get the Windows 8 SDK, which is way more than i need and has a really large download size... but i found this on softpedia's page (ok i cant link to it anymore because my post count is low but google it and its in the first results) however it doesnt list windows 7 as something that it specifically works with, and i dont see a 64bit version of it either, just the Itanium one, ive found the same file on other sites like cnet too, but they all dont list Windows 7 as something it works with. So if i get that one would it work anyway? and would it install on a 64bit system and work? reason im getting it is to use them with DaRT's crash analyzer. On a follow up to this question... is there a difference between the checked and retail debugging symbols on microsofts site? like does one have more symbols than the other or...? and which one should i get? i want to basically have the most complete set!