Win 10 Pro Activated then "crippled"

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  1. dizmayed

    dizmayed MDL Novice

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    #1 dizmayed, Aug 12, 2015
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    I installed Win 7 Ult with daz and achieved activation. Upgraded to Win 10 Pro and achieved activation. Did a clean install and achieved activation. All looked good.

    Then during an update for Win 10 (perhaps not related) my Win desktop became crippled. Meaning I couldn't easily access the Control Panel or most desktop functions. Seemed "crippled."

    I managed to access an Event Log and found many instances of something like licensing failure. I was so rattled I didn't take good notes.

    I used System Restore to roll back to a functioning Win 10. I'm afraid to re-connect to the internet for fear this will happen again. I've read lots of posts here. Maybe I missed this issue? Can you help?

    I do not have a Microsoft Account. Is that important

    dizmayed
     
  2. GOD666

    GOD666 MDL Expert

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    #2 GOD666, Aug 12, 2015
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    When installing Windows 7 with DAZ, you needed to associate your Microsoft Account when you upgrade to Windows 10 (start the upgrade within Windows). Wait maybe an hour or two (after installing Windows 10) so that Microsoft could associate you with being an upgraded user. Then do a clean install and again associate your copy of Windows 10 with your Microsoft Account.

    Doing it quick and dirty (fast), may bring up a red flag.

    What I did was upgraded to Windows 10 and used the computer normally. That included installing Windows Updates, a few programs, ect... Simulating how a normal user with a valid copy (and nothing to fear) would normally use their new upgrade. Then after an hour or two, I did a fresh install (simulating the behavior of someone who may have had an issue and needed to start fresh).

    The whole time I was connected to the internet.
     
  3. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Incorrect. You can do an upgrade from windows 7 without using MS account. You just need to be online during upgrade.
    We have no evidence to suggest upgrade offer is based on anything except hwid.

    I'm not sure what this person's issue is, but it's likely do to a bad install, not MS account.
    Bad installs happen sometimes. Win10 has a weird problem with sometimes corrupting a system file during install.
    Every time you install win10 you should immediately run "sfc /scannow"
     
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  4. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    In additon to murphy's comment, I would say if your PC stills crippled then do a Win10 clean install. Your hwid activation is preserved at M$ serves so at first online contact your Windows should be activated sans hassle.
     
  5. bromanbro

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    I'd stick with the upgraded 10 for a day or 2, obviously connected to the Internet. MS's activation servers are probably backlogged, so give it a bit of time to register your HWID, then format (though tbh I'd just do a "Reset" from within the OS...apparently that always preserves activation)
     
  6. GOD666

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  7. dizmayed

    dizmayed MDL Novice

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    Thank you all for responses. After I restored to an earlier point, computer is stable (see my first post). Murphy suggested sfc /scannow: that is clean now, but not done in the "crippled" state. I did assoc this computer with my MS account and it shows as a device.

    Interesting experience.
     
  8. Bezalel

    Bezalel MDL Member

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    Associating a computer with an account had nothing to do with activation, it is only used by WU to determine what builds you are eligible to download.

    You do not need to be online at the start of the upgrade.

    My clean install process is:
    1. Install Windows 7 with SP1 - do not connect to internet
    2. Install product key and certificate (and if needed loader)
    3. Upgrade to 10
    4. During OOBE connect to internet
    5. Verify that PC is activated
    6. Install updates (and drivers)
    7. Reset PC
     
  9. will5

    will5 MDL Member

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    Never used a loader, but as a loader emulates a bios, this doesnt change hardware id hash?