Win 8.1 on HP x360 Woes

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by swazi, May 4, 2014.

  1. swazi

    swazi MDL Novice

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    Hi.
    I have come across a weird problem. I bought a HP x360. And my plan was to install fresh win 8.1 on a ssd.
    Problem is the machine will not detect the ssd (I checked and it works).
    I install the iso on usb and boot. Cannot find disk. Run diskpart and get "no disk detected" (other than usb).
    I connect the ssd to another machine run diskpart with clean all and create GPT
    As a test I cloned the drive with paragon and still it could not find the disk.
    I was able to use "upgrade windows 8.1 with a key" to create usb and install the ssd with the usb. So I know the drive works! But I only have a win 8 pro key, so I cannot activate the core oem key from the bios. None of the core keys I found on the web works to create the usb.

    So what gives that when I create usb from "upgrade windows 8.1 with a key" it works but when I use iso from this forum link or the enterprise evaluation from ms website or even clone with paragon it does not recognize the disk in the bios?

    Bios contains "enable legacy", "secure boot" and "clear security keys" along with "load hp default security keys". I tried all permutations without success.
     
  2. my2cents

    my2cents Guest

    This problem must be addressed first. Did you physically install the replacement drive? If the BIOS is not recognizing the new SSD, all the install efforts you described are NA at this point.
     
  3. im bored

    im bored MDL Member

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    I know HP has whats called a whitelist in their BIOS for the WiFi cards meaning you can only install a specific WiFi card that HP wants you to all others wont be recognized. Its possible that HP also does this for other hardware (I don't know as I don't buy any Hewlett Packard BS). Maybe that can explain why your SSD is not seen or maybe you are overlooking something during installation.

    Also your confusing your self with all the ISO's, and diskpart tools.

    The easiest way is to install your SSD and than go in to BIOS. If SSD is seen in the BIOS it should be seen during installation, if its not seen in BIOS it will never be seen by any software.
     
  4. swazi

    swazi MDL Novice

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    Yeah - I have never liked HP for all their BS. I bought the laptop for my kids as an intro to PCs and to keep them off my or my wife's laptops. But I may be better off spending another benjamin and getting a lenovo yoga.
    Bios does not really list attached devices, only place I can see drives are in boot selection it shows bootable drives
     
  5. my2cents

    my2cents Guest

    Can you explain what you men by an attached drive? Is this SSD installed or just plugged into a USB enclosure of sorts.
     
  6. im bored

    im bored MDL Member

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  7. swazi

    swazi MDL Novice

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    I typed a long response today from my phone but then lost it as my signon timed out !@#$%
    Basically my response came to this; while I really appreciate all responses, I know my way around a bios and building a pc/installing parts. Without belaboring the bios, this one does not show in the setup screen (F10) the drives that it recongnize. Selecting the boot order setup is just a generic list (e.g. cd rom even if one is not attached). Thus there is no way from the bios setup of telling if the ssd is recognized. Now from selecting which device to boot from during post (f9) it will show actual devices attached as long as they are bootable devices (e.g a usb with no bootable install on it will not show up). But leaving the bios be for now, here are the facts (and I have tested these numerous times):
    -If I create a usb from the msdn iso linked on this forum, the ssd is not recognized during install.
    -If I create a usb from the "official" ms "upgrade win 8.1 with a product key". The ssd IS recognized. Unfortunately I only have a win 8 key for pro so the install is pro and I cannot after install link it to the oem key as that is core. And before anybody links me to it - the generic core key floating on the web fails to work to create the usb. Web is full of reports that the generic core key does not work anymore
    -If I clone the existing drive with paragon the ssd is NOT recognized.

    I tried various usb drives and I also tried to load drivers during install (but if it was a driver issue the paragon clone would have worked).
    It is a mystery to me....

    BTW the ssd is a crucial m500. The issue may have to do with Opal/PSID/BIOS security????
     
  8. swazi

    swazi MDL Novice

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    Maybe a little of the mystery explained. According to this link (see below), option 2 step 3, the warning box explains that the win 8 key will only install win 8, not 8.1 And if I remember correctly that is what I got installed. So it was not 8.1 as I assumed but 8.
    In short what I want to add to previous post is that it seems I can install 8 on the m500 but not 8.1


    www eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-windows-8-1-iso-download-create