Win10 Activation Oddity

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  1. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    Ok a bit of an oddity this one.


    About 6 months ago I aquired an i5 laptop ... Acer Aspire. Nothing special. It has no OS and the hard drive had been wiped. I did nothing with it until the first insider preview was released for Windows 10. Since then I've had multiple Windows 10 previews on it, both from updating and fresh install from ISO.


    It updated to build 10240 like all others and remained activated on Pro.


    I decided to take a look at it today with a view to installing Windows 7 for the first time on it and upgrading to 10 to get permenent activation. But before I did I curiously ran slmgr /xpr and it reported that it was permenently activated.


    Odd ... so I took the Win10 DVD and did a fresh install, wiping the HDD out. I chose Pro and skipped the cd key (both times).


    It connected to the internet and activated ... so it's activation really is permenent.


    The question I have is WHY? I didn't upgrade from Win7, and the Win7 that came with it was Home Premium so I would normally only be eligeble to upgrade to Home, not Pro like I have.


    So M$ have just given me a free Pro license for this PC for running the insider previews?
     
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  2. Superfly

    Superfly MDL Expert

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    Probably due to you still being registred as an Insider - had a report at TenForums of a guy getting bumped off after rolling out of Insiders - he's was downgraded to Home due to the underlying Core activation. Yours may just become deactivated.
     
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  3. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    I can't see how thats the case as it does not fit my defenition of permenent.


    In addition, since the reinstall I'm not even using a Microsoft Account - so this is not an 'insider' PC.
     
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  4. bulldog147

    bulldog147 MDL Member

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    Mine was activated permenent. And didn't use insider program or microsoft account.
     
  5. Don

    Don MDL Expert

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    It fits their's though. If you quit insiders and you were activated with a non-conforming OS you will be deactivated...of course that won't happen if you never connect to the internet :)
     
  6. GezoeSloog

    GezoeSloog MDL Addicted

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    This is a gift for your fat MSDN subscription. They are watching you :doofywave:
     
  7. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    #7 Threat, Jul 26, 2015
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    As far as I am aware the insider program is linked to the MSA ... this PC is not using an MSA.

    In addition, I've not seen it stated anywhere that people who stay in the insider program get free licence, just that the upgrade remain activated if already installed. This is a non MSA PC that has a permanent "upgrade" licence without having gone through the previous activated OS route...
     
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  8. Don

    Don MDL Expert

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    Was it when it activated? If not then no problem.
     
  9. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    Since I wiped it I set it up with a local account, not an MSA. So it would have no way to know if I was still an insider or not.
     
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  10. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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  11. vipanonymous

    vipanonymous MDL Senior Member

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    I think i'll try that out. But what does the Insider registration have to do with Insider Builds. I mean, if i stay registered but opted out the program in my PC. What M$ could take from me that will justify my status as an 'insider', since i'm fully activated and not accepting their builds... :g: Can't wait for the "D" day. So many questions, and almost no answers.
     
  12. Superfly

    Superfly MDL Expert

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  13. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    The initial install was Win10 Preview


    The version I've used is the WZor leak.


    At no point have I had a previous OS on, qualifying or not.
     
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  14. Don

    Don MDL Expert

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    Sure it would, you opt out from the internet, not from the PC itself.
     
  15. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    If you ever installed preview with a key, that's how your hardware got on their servers.
     
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  16. vipanonymous

    vipanonymous MDL Senior Member

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    So you are saying that opting out from the WU means nothing? Even connected to the internet. :g:
     
  17. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    during insider, it got your HWID, it knows that system. It is activating with the HWID now, it matches previously used system with what you are activating now. Says ok this is familiar, with no need for MSA signed in for it to see a familiar system is trying to activate.
     
  18. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    They time bomb people who do not play by rules:D
     
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  19. Threat

    Threat Lord of the Files

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    I understand how they got my HWID, but that should not (I believe) give me permanant activation.


    My understanding was if you wipe PC's that were activated and updated to RTM, then you lose the activation and have to install the Win7 and upgrade at least once to make it permement.


    But that seems not the case here?
     
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