windows 10 2015 LTSB upgrade help

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  1. Hoppyah

    Hoppyah MDL Senior Member

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    Hi guys currently have win 10 ltsb 2015 installed how do i get it to upgrade to the latest build??

    Thanks Andy
     
  2. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Run setup from LTSB 2016 iso while running LTSB 2015, it will upgrade, keeping apps & user files (done it many times with no issue)

    sebus
     
  3. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

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    So when you do this, what do you get that you didn't have before
    and what did you lose.


    I've been searching and can't find the answer, so it seems consistent with this thread.

    ..T
     
  4. Supern00b

    Supern00b MDL Senior Member

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    Well actually you will get a whole new 2016 ltsb install, afterwards your settings and programs are imported and the "old" install will be named "windows.old".
    So you get all the goodies from 2016 ltsb, and it is a lot better than 2015 ltsb. A lot.

    Cheers.
     
  5. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

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    Cumulative Updates make 2015 edition secured and up to date system wise, and that's all that's needed from LTSB Client Perspective.
    So unless some new feature makes it way to CB/CBB and gets a worldwide first of a kind acceptance and applause, there's really no need for a new LTSB.
    LTSB is meant to NOT EVOLVE, being the replacement for EMBEDDED editions it's something you set up, secure, and forget.

    ...T
     
  6. pewi

    pewi MDL Novice

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    #6 pewi, Nov 7, 2016
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    I've tried this but "keeping apps & user files" was greyed out. Only personal settings were kept (no gpedit settings were kept either). No option to import old settings either :(

    So, I took the opertunity to look at the 2016 LTSB edition. The first thing I didn't like was "Windows Hello" is included and the setting "return without password after hibernation" was missing from the Power Option menu. I only had a quick look but this settled it for me. 2015 edition is better for me.
     
  7. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @pewi Hi dude, first Welcome to MDL :), second maybe you need see more details about this build (I'm running now) I think that you change your opinion Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB for me is the better til now works fine ok :biggrin:
     
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  8. pewi

    pewi MDL Novice

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    Hi tiger, I was using the wrong version (run "2015 LTSB N", upgrade "2016 LTSB without N", so Windows installed as a new system. I did the update with version "2016 LTSB N" now and it worked. My system was kept the same except "Classic Shell" which needed some adjustments. I will try 2016 LTSB N for a bit longer now. I also turned off "Windows Hello" and "ask for password after hybernation" with gpedit. I will look for other "New Features" now and if there aren't any more and updates behaviour stays as before (only security updates) I will keep this version for longer.
     
  9. Snuffy

    Snuffy MDL Expert

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    Make a very good restorable image of your 2015, because if your like me. you will be 100% pissed off when you see all the CRAP that MS added to 2016.
    IMHO 2016 is not worth the time to upgrade since I feel I wasted that time, then had to waste more time doing a Full Image Restore back to.
     
  10. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @pewi yay dude congrats I'm happy to see you happy too, well for Classic Shell verify if you are using the last version 4.3.0 and when configuring I personally don't install nothing that refer I.E, or same classic explorer, I install ALL for Classic Shell and I know that works fine since times of Windows 7 and choose show all configurations and configure as desired right yet this version NO have software for Windows Media Player if you do'nt need ok, again for me Windows Enterprise 2016 LTSB is awesome; any doubts simply ask I hope help you as necessary :)
     
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    sergey3165 MDL Novice

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    #11 sergey3165, Nov 8, 2016
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    I welcome. will remain windows after updating on ltsb 2016 is activated?
     
  12. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Same as it was previously (activated)
     
  13. pewi

    pewi MDL Novice

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    After just one week, I went back to 2015 LTSB. It runs smoother on my old laptop (Celeron T3000, 2gb RAM, 320gb HDD). 2015 LTSB is more like Windows 7 but with 10 years of updates (until 2025) and only security updates unlike Windows 7.
     
  14. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

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    Just to complete the thread
    I put another HDD in my D630 and did a clean install of Win10 LTSB 2016
    it installed without a hitch and even installed a complete set of drivers for all devices
    that has never happened before on any version of Win
    I like the desktop with none of those idiot tiles
    and the menu while long and more complicated than Win7 does seem to work ok
    So all in all I think it's an improvement , and worth the change

    ...T
     
  15. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

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    Im on LTSB 2016 N and its good, but needs some tweaking, so far so good though :)
     
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  16. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Total rubbish statement! There is no way that 2015 would behave in any way better than 2016. 2015 is rough.

    It is your personal perception of what you see & use on junk piece of hardware
     
  17. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Junk piece of hardware :D I must say It should run fine on every hardware if MS was not working hand in hand with the selling of newer hardware by setting higher and higer specs these days ;)
     
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  18. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Why should it? Hardware was designed (by its spec) most likely for Win 7 Home 32-bit or even Windows XP

    Celeron T3000 Launch Date Q2'09 - that is 7 years old (I change car ~ that same)

    Why should the current OS support something that is that old? And if it does, it really can not be expected to run smoothly because somebody would like to use it
     
  19. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    #19 endbase, Dec 11, 2016
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    That's true an normal computer will last 3 - 5 years in my opinion after that trash the piece most likely I had my own compagny for 13 years and in the beginning I repaired "old" computers but after an while I advised my costumers just to buy new hardware. Simply not worth the process to work on oldtimers ;)
     
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  20. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    #20 T-S, Dec 11, 2016
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    Not necessarily. 2015 is (obviously) the closest to older win versions, so it's actually possible that it manages some older hw better than newer one.

    Annyversary is practically Win11 according to the old naming scheme, and 10586 is practically W10.1. So going to 14393 is a big jump that may lead to problems (see Hyper-V 2008R2, for example)
     
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