Windows 10 32bit or 64bit?

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  1. se7an

    se7an MDL Novice

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    Guys i have dell 3558 laptop with intel 5005u cpu and 4gb ram and window 10 pro x64 installed. i have some performance issues while playing video in vlc (32bit and 64bit). hd videos have frame drop. when i change the os to 32bit, will solve the issue?. it will improve the overall performance? please guide me, thanks.
     
  2. prashantsays

    prashantsays MDL Member

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    i have a laptop speced lowered than your running win 10 64bit and it plays hd videos flawlessly. There must be any other reason for frame drops, changing windows doesn't matter is what i think.
     
  3. lobo11

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  4. Katzenfreund

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    I can't say if the 32 bit version will solve your problem, as in my view it shouldn't be there in the first place. But the officially stated advantage of 64 bits is:

    "The benefits of using a 64-bit operating system are most apparent when you have a large amount of random access memory (RAM) installed on your computer, typically 4 GB of RAM or more. In such cases, because a 64-bit operating system can handle large amounts of memory more efficiently than a 32-bit operating system, a 64-bit system can be more responsive when running several programs at the same time and switching between them frequently. "

    Bear also in mind that you can run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit system, but not the other way round.
     
  5. BigReds

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    The few problems it could is normally either a driver issue, codecs issue, Hardware acceleration and what type of video codec your trying to play.
    If your playing H264 HD video then the intel 5500 with vlc should hardware accelerate for smooth playback, if your trying to play HD with 265 codec then I don't think the intel 5500 can
    Hardware Accelerate that and it's making the CPU do all the work by Software Accelerate it instead which could cause the slow playback if the CPU/Harddrive can't keep up.
     
  6. vuze4u

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    No need to go 32bit but a clean install might help. Before that you should try some diagnostics, monitor the system usage when playback the video to see if there's part of the system struggle to keep up. Try update network and graphic to latest driver if possible. Even disable Antivirus temporary and all sorts of background programs/tasks for testing.
     
  7. lobo11

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  8. BigReds

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    The 5005u is a 5th generation cpu with integrated 5500 gpu and 5400 HDD.
    and yes depending on what codec/setting and resolution the video is encoded at will determine how much gpu/cpu is needed to render it for playback.
    The 5500 doesn't support 265 acceleration and will make the cpu work harder to play it, h264-avc bluray is fully supported though.
    The OP only mentioned HD video which is very vague since there are many codecs and settings HD video can be encoded in.
    I also mentioned possible driver issue as well!
     
  9. LiteOS

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    Try ltsb enterprise on vhd see if there less drops if so get lited version
     
  10. PhaseDoubt

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    [FONT=&quot]If he's going to try LTSB (an entirely new OS) he may as well just try the 32 bit version of the OS he has now which is what his original question was about.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=&quot]I don’t think “degrading” to 32 bit architecture is going to solve his problem. But if in doing so he gets a new driver that solves the problem, he’ll never know for sure which it was. Which doesn’t really matter so long as he gets the results he wants.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=&quot]I suggest he try the 32 bit version and see what happens. Make a System Image first so reverting to the 64bit version will be easy.[/FONT]
     
  11. hb860

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    From my personal experience, it can be an issue with VLC
    Try with another player. SMplayer, MPC-HC. See how it will go.
     
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  12. LiteOS

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    i said on vhd doesnt mean new os just second os for testing
     
  13. PhaseDoubt

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    Fine. But why suggest a totally new OS when he is asking about the same one he's running and is already familiar with, knows its operating characteristics on his computer and apparently already has a copy? That last part is a guess of course.

    Whatever ... he just needs to make up his mind move on. Me too for that matter.
     
  14. se7an

    se7an MDL Novice

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    Guys,thanks for your help. I am running ltsb 64bit version of 10. And i use latest drivers from dell. If i play 4k videos i have lot of frame drops. And other videos, when i fast forward i got photo negative like video for few seconds. When auto wallpaper changes, video struck for a second. I use vlc. Thanks.
     
  15. BigReds

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    That clears things up a bit, 4k video takes a lot to render for play back but your cpu should handle it fine.
    Your biggest bottleneck is the 5400 rpm HDD which can't keep up, switching to an ssd will help a lot with the problem.
    4gigs of ram is a little low for 4k video if your win10 system is using most of it for processes which makes the HDD churn even more slowing things down.
     
  16. LiteOS

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    Check with temp app to see its getting too hot
     
  17. Rock Hunter

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    Suggestion: Look in your motherboard bios settings to see if you can increase the amount of memory allocated to the display. If it is set to the lowest number, try moving up one increment and see if that cures the problem. If not try moving up a second increment. You may have maybe 6 options to try.

    Suggestion 2: If you increase the ram to 8gb (which should not be very expensive) that might also help.

    Let us know when and how you solve the problem.
     
  18. erpsterm35

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    the x86/32bit edition of Windows 10 is best suited for much older hardware, especially old computers that use old socket 754 & 939 based AMD64 processors (and first few generations of Intel Pentium 4 CPUs from the socket 423 & 478 series) that don't have the cmpxchg16b instruction set necessary to run 64bit Windows 10.

    OP should up his RAM to at least 8 gigabytes. Win10 x64 works best with 8Gb, 12Gb or even 16Gb.