windows 10 backup activation

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  1. Reactos

    Reactos MDL Novice

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    Hi. I made a backup of Windows 8.1 with advanced token manager. Even I do not download the update offered by MS. How I can make backup in Windows 10? Are the same files taken.dat?:tea:
     
  2. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    It's completely pointless, simply forget that. (Re-)Activation will always need online contact. NO OFFLINE OPTION SO FAR.
     
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    chris34 MDL Member

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    Use a Disk image software to image your whole install if you want to back up your activation. It's the only way so far.
     
  5. Reactos

    Reactos MDL Novice

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    Thank You. Does this mean that Microsoft has us fully identified?:eek:
     
  6. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Yes. They know every machine that installs and activates their software who isn't using an offline activator such as Winloader or MTK.
    Don't freak out, tho. They just know your hardware information and machine name. They don't associate it with personal info if you don't use an online acct.
     
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    jupier2k MDL Member

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    what if dual boot

    win10 pro activated from win7sp1 upgrade and
    win10 Enterprise on another partition activate using KMS ?
     
  8. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    The moment one machine gets net contact (either which) MS will know all needed. They don't seem to care atm thou.
     
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  9. egyptian hak

    egyptian hak MDL Novice

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    the same in windows 8 and 10

    i do my windows 10 activation backup by advanced token manger and restored it successfully activated without need to internet


    :clap::clap::clap:
     
  10. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Yeah, sure buddy :doh:.
     
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  11. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    Quit for not to waste time on incorrect information.
     
  12. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    They all forget it saves wrong tokens. New Activation uses different one :cool2:.
     
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  13. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    Yes. Windows 10 has changed somehow. Unless whole image backuped, a first time Network-Connected-Activation is a must.

    OK. Your appearance saves me time for explanation.
     
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    #14 s1ave77, Aug 1, 2015
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    Code:
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\tokens.dat
     
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  15. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    #15 xinso, Aug 1, 2015
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    Oh, it is what Superfly mentioned. I will give it a go now.
     
  16. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Yep, but according to him, he tested the offline backup and failed ... not THAT easy :D.
     
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  17. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    I failed as well.
    I replaced the reg keys and tokens in offline mode using a boot cmd prompt.
    It's doing something else that we don't know about with these online activations.
    We really need to:
    1 re-install on a known activated machine with net off
    2 set up a probe program like processmonitor that logs reads/writes
    3 turn on net and do slmgr /ato and find out what it reads/writes
     
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  18. s1ave77

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    Not sure if there is any 'mystery' here involved ... could be they made a handshake with the Server mandatory, to recreate/validate the tokens, like an-in-build WAT check, known from Win 7 online Validation :g:.
     
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  19. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    As said, if the handshake is mandatory ... you only compete with the guy with the windmill spleen :hmm:.
     
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  20. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    No. Even worse.