Windows 10 X64 Pro Rel 1909 Rel 18363 Build No Sys Reserve

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  1. armadillotuff

    armadillotuff MDL Member

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    Question? I just built a new Windows 10 Pro System off a 1909 ISO. This system was built on a 128GB SSD. When I went into Manage Disk Management, to check the partition build I noticed that there is no System Reserve Area, just the New Volume "C", for 119GB NTFS, Healthy (System Boot, Page File, Active, Crash Dump, Primary Partition).

    Is this the new normal when building new Windows 10 operating systems with these new Microsoft Operating System? The new build shows up in System as: Windows 10 Pro, Version 1909, Installed 5/2/2020, OS Build 18363.418
     
  2. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    #2 kaljukass, May 3, 2020
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    My Question?
    You said "I just built a new Windows 10 Pro System off a 1909 ISO" This system was built on a 128GB SSD.
    • does it means that You just installed Windows 10 Pro onto the new clean SSD drive
    • if so then System Reserve (Recovery Partition) may be hidden.
    • system installation operation by itself will never make any reserve area or partition etc., it only stores shadow copy, which is usually invisible and can be used for system repairing.
    • and the last question - why You have OS Build 18363.418 version if current OS Builds are 18362.815 and 18363.815
     
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  3. armadillotuff

    armadillotuff MDL Member

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    Thanks for your response. I have always seen a system reserve area build on all of my previous builds. Glad I don't have to worry about this in the future. The reason for the "418" ISO build was this was a version I had for a number of months. I just went thru the update on my new build and it brought the version of 18363 to 8xx.
     
  4. armadillotuff

    armadillotuff MDL Member

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    According to the writer Kaljukass, you don't need a System Reserve area if you are installing a clean copy of an ISO 1909 to a Clean SSD device. I have just replicated Three (3) new installs of Windows 10 Pro 1909.18363.815 without any of them having a System Reserve Area and they all boot without any problems.
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    He said, windows doesn't create it, i showed the default windows mo, it creates it.
     
  6. armadillotuff

    armadillotuff MDL Member

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    I'm sorry to disagree with you, but this is what shows up when I run "manage" "disk management", there is no System Reserve Area, just the "New Volume "C", for 119GB NTFS, Healthy (System Boot, Page File, Active, Crash Dump, Primary Partition)." This SSD has been tested without the system reserve area and it has run on three legacy Dell systems and boots without any problems. All of the Dell's are running 1909.18363.815
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    There is nothing to discuss at all, on whatever medium you install a not modified windows, it will create these partitions when running a standard install.
     
  8. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    #9 Carlos Detweiller, May 4, 2020
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    If you let Setup do the partitioning, the additional partition(s) will be created. If you pre-create one big partition on the drive, Setup won't change it, afterwards.

    Btw. that's how Windows 10 20H1 now does it:
    diskmgmt_win10_core_20H1.jpg

    EFI is similar (I think there is also a 16MB MS partition it doesn't show):
    diskmgmt_win10efi_core_20H1.jpg
     
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