Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by akritasge, Nov 3, 2009.
Are there any ideas about the necessity of installation Java Runtimes on a Windows 7 system?
Some sites needs java to run. I need it for online banking.
You need java runtime only if required by your application; otherwise no need to install in win7.
My question is due to a problem I faced with IE.
After having installed Java Runtimes (version 6u16) IE became extremely slow.
The problem ended when I removed Java from IE’s BHO (Browser Helper Object) Path.
BHO (Browser Helper Object) are add-ons that give sum functions to IE.
I dont use IE for more then 5 years, i am using firefox and i dont have such a problem.
Agreed. FF doesn't have that issue. It's still superior to IE, for all I know...
To Michel and Genuine555
Fortunately or unfortunately, my friends, I am stuck with MS.
MS is promoting DotNet, hence they will not support Java as they should.
I had the same problems with IE, and not just with IE 8.
If java is essential for it. Just came to know soon coz i was going to play a game on dot3 using ie8 but as java wasn't installed on my windows 7 so i propmt to a msg to download java.
You mean that .NET Framework is MS’s equivalent for Java?
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Natively Java and Adobe Flash are not pre-installed on the Windows 7 platform. Microsoft has actually been pretty good at streamlining their installs so it doesn't install all the non-Microsoft programs on store bought installations. Usually, vendors such as Dell, HP and others will have Flash and Java pre-installed. Older versions of course that need to be upgraded probably whenever you buy a new PC.
I always recommend to people I know that if they buy a Laptop or Desktop with pre-installed Vista (now Windows 7) it's a waste of money due to all the bloatware. You would actually be saving a lot of money just making a custom desktop computer. Laptop I suppose you really have no choice but laptops seem to be inexpensive compared to some desktops these days.
Internet Explorer isn't that bad but just takes much longer to customize to get any features that Firefox provides through add-ons. It's quite sad really. Long ago I never used Firefox or even Opera and I never got viruses. But these days many non-legit flash ads are injecting viruses onto your computer without your knowledge. It's probably not as wide spread anymore. But it only takes one virus to steal your World of Warcraft account, credit card number or worse your social security number for us American folks.
Another reason I've personally chosen Firefox over other browsers.
To all of you that partcipated to this thread
After having red your posts, rather I come to the conclusion that it would be good for us Java to be inastalled in our computers as is needed from a quite large number of applications.
As you will dig in the archives of history - MS got sued by SUN that they included their own Java machine with IE hence they stopped bundling it.
DotNET framework is not the same as Java (but it is a developers platform like Java is).
thanks thats the information i was missing i wasnt sure why MS got pissed off at sun now it makes sense and you answered one of my questions
but heres my second and last question
now my second qusetion is: what is a java virtual machine
as i under stand a virtual machin is for OS virtulization hence theres no need for virtualization in a browser
so basically theres another type of virtual machine that i dont know of
May be you are right about IE’s security. But, for this reason MS, every now and then, provides us with Security Updates about IE and not only. Making things better.
From the other hand, as the users of Fire Fox grow, grow the risks too.
Moreover Fire Fox will not be for ever in the fire-proof state.
Java is an actual object oriented programming language that creates java applets and stand alone programs usually a .JAR or .CLASS file which are ran within a Java Virtual Machine (SUN now calls it JRE)
A JVM or now JRE is basically an instruction set for a computer to use when a JAVA applet or program is executed. It takes those .jar and .class files and runs them thru an interpreter and outputs what the program was intended to do.
A java virtual machine has no relation to a virtual machine in regards to running an operating system.
Any idea, if silverlight is also necessary along with java runtime?
With this i disagree,
You can always reinstall windows vista with a retail disc (if you have it or download one from the internet.) When you use the slic dump toolkit and extract the serial and slic information you can use it on your fresh install and activate vista.
Another thing, my recovery disc from my laptop asks me if i want to install all those programs.
Silverlight is a program that whas made to kill/replace Adobe Flashplayer, Microsoft failed in that
Very usefull information