Windows 8.1 and Windows XP Hybrid

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  1. KOLANICH

    KOLANICH MDL Novice

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    #1 KOLANICH, Oct 9, 2014
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    Is it possible to create a hybrid of 8.1 and xp? I need a very lightweight windows OS to run into virtual machine. Take a note, that the host has only 2gb of ram. The desired system mustn't consume more resources than XP (even existing xp works very slowly and constantly uses swap), but must have new kernel and abi to run some software that have abandoned xp compatibility. Can we take kernel and some system programms from 8 and the rest take from XP?
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    You do know that Windows isn't open source, right?
     
  3. KOLANICH

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    #3 KOLANICH, Oct 9, 2014
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    I know that Windows consists of separate files and there were accidents of porting functionality by just copying and replacing files. Windows 7 explorer and gadgets in windows 8 are examples.
     
  4. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Win 7 and 8 share same kernel and servicing mechanism, way different than XP
     
  5. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    You need Windows 8 Starter. :D
    OK, but it doesn't exist.

    By the way, what with Windows 7 Starter ? It take 2GB maximum memory. But it almost like win8.
     
  6. KOLANICH

    KOLANICH MDL Novice

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    I don't: starter is s**t because it is designed to be s**t. I need windows XP pro with kernel and libs and security mechanisms from the new version and the same or less system requirements as XP.
     
  7. Aquarius357

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    Use Win7 or 8 then. The kernel/ABI/API changes are so extensive between NT 5.x (2000, XP, 2003) and NT 6.x (Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10) that it's impossible to create a hybrid.

    If you need to run XP for compatibility reasons (basically the only reason you'd want XP), you'll have to do so inside a VM or on a seperate machine, and off the internet completely.

    As for system requirements, suck it up and get a newer PC. They're not even that expensive.
     
  8. KOLANICH

    KOLANICH MDL Novice

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    As you see, w7 has much larger requirements than xp and is not suitable for VM running on host with core2duo and 2 GB of ram
     
  9. Aquarius357

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    Not really. To use XP in any half-decent manner, you need at least 1GiB of memory and at least a 2+GHz P4 or better CPU, which is basically the same requirements of win7. This happens because the programs you will be running in XP will want that memory, not XP itself. 7 can run on 512MiB of RAM (One computer I had it on had only 512MiB of RAM for the longest time) and still run general office programs (Office/browser, flash, videos). It wasn't pleasant, but it worked reasonably well.
     
  10. ZaForD

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    I think you'll find that they are the min spec's for the original release of Windows XP, the spec's were updated when SP2 was released.
    But, anyway...
    Theres a version of Windows 7 which is was designed to run on 'old' Windows XP machines.
    I think its called 'Windows Thin PC' that will have the Windows 7 kernel and dependences you're looking for.
     
  11. KOLANICH

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    Windows Thin PC was designed to be used as thin client. But it also has high system requirements such as 1GB of ram.
     
  12. generalmx

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    Microsoft already went through great pains --- both on their part and ours --- to preserve as much compatibility as possible with older programs. And note that Windows XP has a known issue when it comes to both swapping heavily and thrashing the processor on virtual machines for no good reason, and there's no good fix to this; it's partly due to inefficiencies in Windows XP that were fixed in newer versions of Windows.

    Your best bet may be Win81SE.