Windows 8.1 Pro wth WMC file downloaded from Store

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  1. gonz621

    gonz621 MDL Junior Member

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    Hi, I have already successfully upgraded mine into Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC from the Store. It took me about 4 days to download Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC from the Store. Now, the problem is my friends are suffering from a very slow connection because of some network capping in our area that made their download seems so very very slow and next to impossible.

    What I have in mind is what if I can just share the downloaded files from my computer and transfer it to their devices in order for them to continue the upgrade without needing to download individually such a huge file size from the store.

    The problem is I don't know where to locate such files for the Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC upgrade downloaded from the store or is it even possible? And also if ever there's such a solution for this my computer was upgraded from Windows 8 Pro with WMC to Window 8.1 Pro with WMC while one of my friends only has Windows 8 Pro. Will those files from my computer with WMC work to upgrade my friend's Windows 8 Pro to Windows 8.1 Pro without WMC?
     
  2. jackmonter5

    jackmonter5 MDL Senior Member

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    From what ive seen you get an ESD not a wim/iso, and if that isnt enough the store deletes the 4gb esd file right after extracting it to ~bt.sources (dosen't even wait for install to complete. :mad:
     
  3. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    1. The downloaded files already deleted from your system.
    2. The downloaded files can be used for another upgrade (or even clean install with some trick), but the activation state will be lost.
    3. The downloaded files are Edition specific, you can not use Pro WMC to upgrade to Pro only, you will always get Pro 8.1 WMC.
     
  4. MSDNAA

    MSDNAA MDL Senior Member

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    Windows store is the only option to upgrade individual retail PCs.
    "The Windows Store is the only way for consumers (non-enterprise, non-IT Pro) to download and install Windows 8.1. No ISOs will be made available, so each device needs to be updated individually via the Windows Store."
    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...1-VL-In-Place-Update-New-MSDN-ISOs?highlight=
     
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  5. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    They really should stick with the laggy download from the store.
    It's a pain in the rear, but it's the best way to upgrade.

    The MSDN iso upgrade will work, but since you have to install using default keys matching Win8.1's 26xx group, you'd have to re-activate.
    With the store upgrade, you wouldn't need to re-activate.
     
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  6. gonz621

    gonz621 MDL Junior Member

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    Oh then it's sad to hear that. By the way, I'm downloading a Windows 8.1 Pro ISO now via torrent (I'm out of town connected in a fast wifi) with a file name SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_8.1_64BIT_Eng_Intl_MLF_X18-96633 in the intention of giving it to my friends for them to upgrade using this ISO. Will this work? I don't know if this is what referred to as the MSDN ISO cause I am not so familiar with it.
     
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  8. gonz621

    gonz621 MDL Junior Member

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    Can someone enlighten me? I've been browsing on torrents searching for a Windows 8.1 ISO to download and got confused about this "Rollup" thing I came to notice some people are posting about. Now I don't know if I'm downloading the correct ISO.
     
  9. MSDNAA

    MSDNAA MDL Senior Member

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    The above ISO is Pro VL you won't be able to install WMC as addon. Don't download it. Check the The Windows 8.1 Repo for Retail Links.

    Thanks
     
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    gonz621 MDL Junior Member

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    #11 gonz621, Nov 5, 2013
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    Okay thanks. Save me the time of downloading the wrong version.

    Edit:

    I have downloaded this:
    MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.8.1.RTM.X64.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
    RELEASE DATE: 08/21/2013
    BUILD: 6.3.9600.16384.WINBLUE_RTM.130821-1623
    FILE: Windows_8.1_EN-US_x64.ISO
    SIZE: 3,899,295,744 byte
    SHA-1: BC2F7FF5C91C9F0F8676E39E703085C65072139B
    MD5: F104B78019E86E74B149AE5E510F7BE9

    I have a question. What is that Rollup-1 all about? I can't find it stated in my downloaded ISO. Is it necessary?
     
  11. gonz621

    gonz621 MDL Junior Member

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    But will it just come via Windows Update? Thanks for infos guys.
     
  12. redroad

    redroad MDL Guru

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    Unfortunately not .. There has been plenty written on it already here on the forum .. You have 3 choices

    1) wait for retail rollup 1 ISO
    2) dig in and read and learn about the process
    3) Run your download as is and reinstall when the new ISO with rollup 1 is realeased

    My advice run what you have until the new release
     
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    - Until now there is no working method, see discussion here:
    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/39597-Convert-ESD-to-WIM

    - That depends if you managed to backup "C:\$Windows.~BT" contents before the system reboot to upgrade
    if you do, then you will have almost complete ISO structure.
    what you need is two files: boot.wim, ei.cfg
    you can get boot.wim from any windows 8.1 original iso (Latest Enterprise or Pro VL with Rollup-1 Updates is recommended), same architecture and language of course.
    ei.cfg is needed because the generated install.esd will not accept generic win 8.1 install keys (maybe it accepts genuine win 8.1 retail/oem keys, but i don't have any to test).
    so you create text file EI.CFG with the standard format contents
    e.g.
    Code:
    [EditionID]
    Professional
    
    [Channel]
    Retail
    
    [VL]
    0
    
    then you can make the iso using oscdimg.exe or 3rd party program.
    but make sure you delete some redundant folders before you create iso, such as: SafeOS. NewOS, Rollback, Panther, DUDownload.. etc.
    so the remaining folders will be:
    iso root: boot, efi, Sources, support
    sources directory: dlmanifests, en-us (or another lang), etwproviders, inf, migration, replacementmanifests, sxs, vista, xp.

    and delete two .tmp files located in sources folder.

    Note: the directly downloaded .esd file cannot be used because it's encrypted.
    but the generated install.esd isn't.
     
  15. scorp81

    scorp81 MDL Novice

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    Downloaded the upgrade file for win81 x64 WMC in .esd form from store. Believe this file is not specific to individual PCs.
    Can this (encryptd .esd file) be used to upgrade other PCs with same version of win8 without losing activation.